full of luv

IMHO, I don't think Tier 1 had anything to do with connections.... they can look for several "boxes" that signify you've achieved some level of trust or success in your career so far.
Maybe a masters degree, maybe a high GPA, maybe LCA at your regional, or a check IP in the military. Maybe head of a local nonprofit that raises money and works with unwed mothers... There are a plethora of things that can make a pilot stand just a little out from a "show up, fly your line/schedule, go home" pilot. Not saying that those pilots don't and won't make fine additions to the team, but if your trying to hire leaders/captains that will do the right thing in the future, there are a few more "boxes" that can be checked that would make a candidate "tier one".

I agree with others assessment though that Delta will always claim to hire from Tier 1, the tiers criteria may change, but they will never say they are lowering standards in any way and whenever they get the chance to hire the highly accomplished pilot from the military or civilian world, they will jump on it.

I do find it interesting that we are already seeing all over the boards the same ole..... "do I really need a degree, and why" posts again, it's getting eerily reminiscent of 2000/1 all over again. It does signify that the hiring is getting down to the level where pilots haven't even checked all the wickets for a career but are ready to go now.

IMHO, it will be interesting times over the next decade with a danger that instead of holding the pilot job up to the standard as a profession with a quantifiable qualification set, that companies will continue and incessantly lobby both government and pilots to lower qualifications and accept lower compensation if it becomes a "job" and not a profession as the years tick by.

Scoop

Not two piles but three. I am a DAL new hire mentor and have been told repeatedly that candidates are broken into three groups, call them whatever you want. I have also been told repeatedly that an internal recommendation would help getting an application pulled and scored into one of the three groups but would not affect the scoring.

So if having a "serious connection" does help other than getting an application scored, and I really don't think it does, it probably requires someone a lot higher than a CP.

Scoop

FightingSioux

I can attest to this. It's the only way I got an interview. Hadn't heard a thing, until a family friend who, "knows a guy" got my resume in front of him, which got my app pulled and scored, 2 days later I got the interview email.. Coincidence, maybe, probably not though.

fishforfun

Are you changing your screen name since it was banned?😡 If I'm guessing correctly where it's from. I could be wrong though.

FightingSioux

You're correct on where it's from and no, I'm not changing it.

fishforfun

Good, most people from there didn't want to and won't either.

tunes

OC has been telling new hire classes that they have enough tier 1 applicants to get through next year.

Hank Kingsley

I was in the third or fourth trough, what's a tier?

badflaps

I'll know they are serious when Lear700 gets the nod. They have been pushing him around for eight years.

filejw

Recommendations help but are minor and my friends that help with hiring would confirm the tier system and also tell you experience and accomplishments are an HR call. What they consider to be pertinent and what you and I see as qualified I'm sure are two different things.