Lanyard Policy
02-11-2016, 05:54 PM
#51
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 5-9 block, kill removing
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Well done DALPA, and JM.
I'll be running to the mailbox like Naiven Johnson looking for the new phone books.
I think we're getting close to where we need to be.
Just think how far we've come from last summer and that pathetic group that told us this was as good as it will get for us. They've actually advanced us more than they'd ever imagined. Just not how they planned.
I'll be running to the mailbox like Naiven Johnson looking for the new phone books.
I think we're getting close to where we need to be.
Just think how far we've come from last summer and that pathetic group that told us this was as good as it will get for us. They've actually advanced us more than they'd ever imagined. Just not how they planned.
02-11-2016, 06:56 PM
#56
Doesn't Get Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,598
I think the way they are treating us has a lot more to do with the "non-contract" groups than it does the money we are asking for. The best move we could make is to fund and support another run at a union for the Flight Attendants.
02-11-2016, 07:14 PM
#57
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
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The thing is they aren't that stupid. So why are they doing what they are doing is the big mystery.
I think the way they are treating us has a lot more to do with the "non-contract" groups than it does the money we are asking for. The best move we could make is to fund and support another run at a union for the Flight Attendants.
I think the way they are treating us has a lot more to do with the "non-contract" groups than it does the money we are asking for. The best move we could make is to fund and support another run at a union for the Flight Attendants.
I bet this was advised by Campbell... and you're exactly right that this has a lot to do with the non-contract groups.
02-11-2016, 07:39 PM
#58
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
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16-03
February 11, 2016
“Advance the Profession” Lanyards
As some of you may know, earlier today, Delta published a bulletin in iCrew announcing a revision to its uniform policy, including, among other things, lanyards. According to the bulletin, this new change is effective immediately, and permits pilots to wear only approved lanyards as described by the policy. Specifically, the policy prohibits the use of any lanyard that is not black, red, blue or white in color. Further, only lanyards that name Delta, a Delta aircraft manufacturer and/or aircraft type, a branch of the U.S. Armed Forces, or ALPA, as the certified collective bargaining representative, are permitted under this policy. No lanyards indicating an affiliation with any other organizations are permitted.
Your MEC has sent all 13,000 Delta pilots an orange-colored lanyard with our C2015 slogan – “Advance the Profession” – along with the ALPA globe, our official logo. ALPA maintains that it is our right to distribute these lanyards and it is your right to wear them. We encourage you to wear these lanyards with pride. Delta’s new uniform policy is a unilateral change to the longstanding lanyard practice and constitutes a violation of our contractual and legal rights. However, due to Delta’s recent policy change, if you are challenged by your supervisor or someone in your chain of command, do not risk disciplinary action through non-compliance with their directive. Follow their directive and let us know that you were ordered to remove your ALPA-approved lanyard. Be sure to let your supervisor know that you are complying with his order under protest – and be assured that your union will also be protesting. If the Company attempts to enforce this unilateral change as it relates to ALPA-issued lanyards, we fully intend to challenge its actions and protect your rights.
As the MEC Chairman stated in his recent letter, proudly wear your new ALPA lanyard to “signify your collective commitment to your Delta MEC and give your negotiators a currency premium.” Stand strong and stand with each other.
February 11, 2016
“Advance the Profession” Lanyards
As some of you may know, earlier today, Delta published a bulletin in iCrew announcing a revision to its uniform policy, including, among other things, lanyards. According to the bulletin, this new change is effective immediately, and permits pilots to wear only approved lanyards as described by the policy. Specifically, the policy prohibits the use of any lanyard that is not black, red, blue or white in color. Further, only lanyards that name Delta, a Delta aircraft manufacturer and/or aircraft type, a branch of the U.S. Armed Forces, or ALPA, as the certified collective bargaining representative, are permitted under this policy. No lanyards indicating an affiliation with any other organizations are permitted.
Your MEC has sent all 13,000 Delta pilots an orange-colored lanyard with our C2015 slogan – “Advance the Profession” – along with the ALPA globe, our official logo. ALPA maintains that it is our right to distribute these lanyards and it is your right to wear them. We encourage you to wear these lanyards with pride. Delta’s new uniform policy is a unilateral change to the longstanding lanyard practice and constitutes a violation of our contractual and legal rights. However, due to Delta’s recent policy change, if you are challenged by your supervisor or someone in your chain of command, do not risk disciplinary action through non-compliance with their directive. Follow their directive and let us know that you were ordered to remove your ALPA-approved lanyard. Be sure to let your supervisor know that you are complying with his order under protest – and be assured that your union will also be protesting. If the Company attempts to enforce this unilateral change as it relates to ALPA-issued lanyards, we fully intend to challenge its actions and protect your rights.
As the MEC Chairman stated in his recent letter, proudly wear your new ALPA lanyard to “signify your collective commitment to your Delta MEC and give your negotiators a currency premium.” Stand strong and stand with each other.
DALPA shows some stones. LOVE IT!
02-11-2016, 07:42 PM
#59
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"As some of you may know, earlier today, Delta published a bulletin in iCrew announcing a revision to its uniform policy, including, among other things, lanyards. According to the bulletin, this new change is effective immediately, and permits pilots to wear only approved lanyards as described by the policy." - MEC Alert 16-03, February 11, 2016.
The Delta ALPA MEC Alert did not mention that lanyard policy goes beyond a bulletin. The uniform criteria modifications are (immediately it seems) integrated into the Flight Operations Manual. FOM 11.6.8 to be exact. Unless I'm thinking of a different "right place/many place/some place/you guess the place" company manual, FOM changes are no simple stroke of the pen. They go through Delta's internal vetting process, which I assume means several levels of command, and ultimately are submitted to the FAA for approval. I would assume the process takes at least several days, probably longer, with possible expedition for serious safety concerns. Once FAA-approved, I believe the entire FOM contents carry regulatory weight; an extension of FARs, if you will. Please correct me if I'm wrong in that interpretation.
So if I'm on target, a violation of FOM directives, especially a wanton and purposeful violation, could open the door for FAA administrative or enforcement action, on top of whatever Delta chooses to do. Obviously this seems like a petty issue and it's unlikely that resources would be wasted to take a violation that far. But stranger things have happened, and these are interesting times we find ourselves in. If there are 13,000 orange ALPA lanyards in play, it will be tough to extend the long arm of the law over this playground skirmish! It's astounding that Delta wants to turn up the heat and set this kind of tone. Just when I was enjoying the pleasures of a well-run airline, this comes along.
All of the above represents me thinking out loud and provides food for thought. I'm in no way suggesting that any of us be intimidated and resist following the clear directives of our ALPA leadership. Quite to the contrary. I look forward to joining about 12,999 of my colleagues in a sea of orange solidarity. As I pace around the mailbox.
The Delta ALPA MEC Alert did not mention that lanyard policy goes beyond a bulletin. The uniform criteria modifications are (immediately it seems) integrated into the Flight Operations Manual. FOM 11.6.8 to be exact. Unless I'm thinking of a different "right place/many place/some place/you guess the place" company manual, FOM changes are no simple stroke of the pen. They go through Delta's internal vetting process, which I assume means several levels of command, and ultimately are submitted to the FAA for approval. I would assume the process takes at least several days, probably longer, with possible expedition for serious safety concerns. Once FAA-approved, I believe the entire FOM contents carry regulatory weight; an extension of FARs, if you will. Please correct me if I'm wrong in that interpretation.
So if I'm on target, a violation of FOM directives, especially a wanton and purposeful violation, could open the door for FAA administrative or enforcement action, on top of whatever Delta chooses to do. Obviously this seems like a petty issue and it's unlikely that resources would be wasted to take a violation that far. But stranger things have happened, and these are interesting times we find ourselves in. If there are 13,000 orange ALPA lanyards in play, it will be tough to extend the long arm of the law over this playground skirmish! It's astounding that Delta wants to turn up the heat and set this kind of tone. Just when I was enjoying the pleasures of a well-run airline, this comes along.
All of the above represents me thinking out loud and provides food for thought. I'm in no way suggesting that any of us be intimidated and resist following the clear directives of our ALPA leadership. Quite to the contrary. I look forward to joining about 12,999 of my colleagues in a sea of orange solidarity. As I pace around the mailbox.
Last edited by zippinbye; 02-11-2016 at 07:47 PM. Reason: sp
02-11-2016, 07:48 PM
#60
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
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By all means, wear the lanyards! But as some here have pointed out, our management isn't stupid; the reasons for this change aren't entirely clear. Pay attention to this part of the ALPA memo:
"...if you are challenged by your supervisor or someone in your chain of command, do not risk disciplinary action through non-compliance with their directive. Follow their directive and let us know that you were ordered to remove your ALPA-approved lanyard. Be sure to let your supervisor know that you are complying with his order under protest – and be assured that your union will also be protesting..."
Be professional, be smart. Just sayin'.
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