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02-25-2016, 10:10 AM

#251

Abouttime2fish

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I wouldn't think so, but I don't know.

02-25-2016, 10:38 AM

#252

Papasmurf

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Good point! The uniform policy should only be applied if your actually wearing your uniform😳Right??😏

02-25-2016, 11:20 AM

#253

UGBSM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jughead135

Understood on all of that. I just don't see how "checking the box" solves the issue of actually knowing about the trip, and/or (in the case of a blanket request) actually being in position to take the trip.

This is going to result in some fireworks re missed trips, probably sooner rather than later....

Well, the PCS system will only auto-acknowledge while you are on duty, not while you are polar bear hunting in Alaska on your days off for example.

So you should always be in position to take the trip when you come off duty. But you are right, it's dicey because you must check your phone messages or iCrew to even know that they gave you an auto-acknowledge trip. It's a set up to fireworks if you don't do your part. You had better be good and certain that you will fly ANY trip that meets your criteria and is legal.

02-25-2016, 12:45 PM

#254

iceman49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tomgoodman

An orange lanyard makes you more visible in the concourse, and may prevent your being run over by one of those beeping electric carts. That will help the company by reducing sick leave.

Tom, excellent point its a safety item!

02-25-2016, 12:56 PM

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Indy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoop

I think more and more Pilots will start wearing the lanyard as the word gets out that CPOs are basically not mentioning it and it appears to be a non-issue.

Has anyone been told to remove one, or even had a CPO acknowledge the lanyard?

Scoop

Just left the JFK lounge after signing in. Made sure to say "Hi" to the Regional Director and an ACP with the orange swag prominently displayed. They simply wished me a great trip with a big smile.

1 in 3 pilots in uniform had their orange on (in full view of the CPs)...no issue. Tons of orange "Vote No" luggage tags. A union volunteer mentioned that the company acknowledged the PWA requires 6-month notification prior to enforcing any uniform changes. Hence the orange lanyard is perfectly legal, as new changes are unenforceable
For 5+ more months.

Enjoy being orange!

02-25-2016, 03:54 PM

#256

80ktsClamp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish

Rumors of 2 cases. One by a NYC CP, the other by a sim instructor. Orange strong!

What fleet was the sim instructor on? Hopefully that's not true.

02-25-2016, 04:30 PM

#257

Banzai

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Maybe I'm overthinking it, but it seems to me that if management looks around and sees EVERYONE, overnight, wearing an orange lanyard, they get one idea about the pilot group they are negotiating with...but if they look around and only see 10%, quite another.

They are making a fresh assessment of who is across the table from them.

02-25-2016, 07:29 PM

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Jughead135

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I was in the ATL Domestic lounge earlier today. I'd say roughly 50/50--maybe slightly to the lower side of that, but definitely over 40% wearing orange....