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Old 02-17-2016, 05:40 PM
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Just got back from the ATL. Saw about twenty DAL pilots on my walk from D to B and didn't see a single orange lanyard worn. Including the two that flew my flight home. Either they haven't received them or they're scared of the memo.
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:14 PM
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I just got done reading the new Flight Ops weekly update, re the new red, black, blue or white lanyard nonsense. Sounds like Team Orange is already having an impact! I can't wait until this blows up into a rally cry like;

No orange? No overtime!
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Erdude32
They haven't backed off the lanyard policy, they've changed tactics & doubled down. Latest Flight Ops new letter/smoke up your a$$ from Dickson...they are incorporating the lanyard policy AND wristbands into the FOM.

Yet I still see guys making gatehouse PA's, cheery welcome aboard announcements with freakin tour guide info & weather channel diagnostics. I'm friends with 20'ish guys on a private chat group...gushing about all the GS available.

We are our own worst enemy.
Go ahead with your gatehouse PAs......knock yourself out. That's what Mgmt wants....stupid workers that can't tell when they're being screwed.

I won't do anything that's not absolutely required of me....why should I?

JP Power, customer engagement....what's that?

No, I do not own a (Mgmt laden) backpack.
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Old 02-17-2016, 06:31 PM
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Mine just arrived in the mail !!!! It will be proudly worn as I leave for my next trip!!!
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I just got done reading the new Flight Ops weekly update, re the new red, black, blue or white lanyard nonsense. Sounds like Team Orange is already having an impact! I can't wait until this blows up into a rally cry like;

No orange? No overtime!
i feel like I did my small part. had a gs in that i never intended to fly. after the 3rd call cs finally asked my voicemail to please change my slip if i wasnt planning on flying.

i wonder how much it would affect the operation if everybody put in a gs but nobody flew them.
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Old 02-17-2016, 11:26 PM
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Best be careful with any language here, these guys will take a few hostages to prove a point. Game is on and we have to let our elected reps have a chance to do their jobs.
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Old 02-18-2016, 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
i feel like I did my small part. had a gs in that i never intended to fly. after the 3rd call cs finally asked my voicemail to please change my slip if i wasnt planning on flying.

i wonder how much it would affect the operation if everybody put in a gs but nobody flew them.
I suppose that would make us a bunch of collective liars. i would tread carefully with posting stuff like this.

Don't want to fly a GS? Then don't put in for one. But to put in for one with zero intent of ever flying one, just to gum up the system could be taken very dimly by the company. We've done stuff like that in the past and it tends to blow up in our faces legally.

If you really want to legally make mgmt think about widescale understaffing of categories, either put in a GSWC or bid a reserve line and then fly GS over your x-days. With the payback day feature, a reserve GS works more like a GSWC than anything. In fact I wish it were coded differently in Daily Trip Coverage for that very reason.
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Old 02-18-2016, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
I suppose that would make us a bunch of collective liars. i would tread carefully with posting stuff like this.

Don't want to fly a GS? Then don't put in for one. But to put in for one with zero intent of ever flying one, just to gum up the system could be taken very dimly by the company. We've done stuff like that in the past and it tends to blow up in our faces legally.

If you really want to legally make mgmt think about widescale understaffing of categories, either put in a GSWC or bid a reserve line and then fly GS over your x-days. With the payback day feature, a reserve GS works more like a GSWC than anything. In fact I wish it were coded differently in Daily Trip Coverage for that very reason.
I was thinking about this the other day. If guys decided (on their own of course) to only fly GSWC it would hurt reserves. If GSWC and reserve GS were all that were flown only reserves would get GS until their schedules were full of pay back days, then guys would get a lot of GSWC. I just wonder what the best thing would be in that case.

I am not saying anyone should do that though. Personally I usually don't even put in GS because I get the days off I want and I want them off.
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Old 02-18-2016, 04:50 AM
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A reserves ability to GS does not end when his schedule is full of payback days. If your saying reserves stop flying greenslips once there schedule is full of PB days I agree.
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Old 02-18-2016, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
Best be careful with any language here, these guys will take a few hostages to prove a point. Game is on and we have to let our elected reps have a chance to do their jobs.
I agree we should never do anything illegal. We don't need to.

Standing up a STRIKE COMMITTEE and initiating informational picketing will be very effective.

The being said, taking just one hostage changes the game. That would be the biggest mistake management could ever make.

Let's hope they take the high road.
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