Christopher kern lec44 f/o rep candidate
09-25-2015, 07:24 AM
#21
No Kool-Aid please...
Joined APC: Jun 2015
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And how do you get management to sign the contract? Go look at Section 28 and see how many signatures are there. How do you do get all those names on the left side of the page to sign the document? This is a serious question. Our contract is already 10% ahead of the competition and management was willing to go to 20%. Exactly how far ahead of your competitors will we have to be before it's not garbage?
09-26-2015, 03:15 AM
#22
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The acceptable marginal increase over our competitors will be driven by a number defined in the survey results of our membership and a number deemed affordable by the Company.
In a perfect world, the two numbers would match, but the reality is rarely do such events occur between a company and its labor group. Accordingly, negotiations ensue to bridge that gap, an agreement is reached and the signatures (Section 28 here) follow.
Being a numbers guy and former analyst, numbers like 10%, 20% or even the 12% sick leave proffered by the Company mean nothing to me without proper and thorough accounting validation. The valuation of QOL items relinquished in the TA were not included. The majority of the membership concluded intuitively that those losses were excessive and unacceptable.
The membership has also expressed a desire for representation that gives serious consideration to the entirety of the TA.
I do.
In a perfect world, the two numbers would match, but the reality is rarely do such events occur between a company and its labor group. Accordingly, negotiations ensue to bridge that gap, an agreement is reached and the signatures (Section 28 here) follow.
Being a numbers guy and former analyst, numbers like 10%, 20% or even the 12% sick leave proffered by the Company mean nothing to me without proper and thorough accounting validation. The valuation of QOL items relinquished in the TA were not included. The majority of the membership concluded intuitively that those losses were excessive and unacceptable.
The membership has also expressed a desire for representation that gives serious consideration to the entirety of the TA.
I do.
09-26-2015, 11:45 PM
#23
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,753
I'm wondering why ALPA National has not held an Airline Negotiating Summit, where ALL Major US Airlines, including non-ALPA carriers, would get together and set a pre-bankruptcy negotiating floor, for pay and benefits.
We are the only ones with the ATP's needed to move the airframes and generate these historic profits. Why are WE not demanding to be restored to pre-bankruptcy pay/benefit levels before our managements pizz away that money on stock buybacks?
We are the only ones with the ATP's needed to move the airframes and generate these historic profits. Why are WE not demanding to be restored to pre-bankruptcy pay/benefit levels before our managements pizz away that money on stock buybacks?
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