Originally Posted by admrl757

THE REJECTED TA

We are all familiar with the term “fifty plus one” as it pertains to the successful passage of negotiated agreements. My fellow aviators of Council 44, I submit to you that such a metric is a prescription for rejection, and based upon the most recent survey questions reported via social media, I fear the groundwork is being established for another disappointment. You see, I was taught that anything less than 70% (sometimes 80%) is considered a failure. The bar is set too low. Questions from the latest survey, suggesting a minor tweak here or there to change a “no” vote to a “yes” vote tells me that our feedback is not being acknowledged correctly. Let’s raise the bar. If a 65% rejection can send a message imagine what will resonate throughout our Company, the industry and Wall Street if we achieve an even higher rating of approval with a quality TA worthwhile of MEMRAT.

Originally Posted by admrl757

I am not specifically referencing any policies ALPA National or RLA. What I am saying is the TA appeared to be aiming for the bare minimum of passage. The quality of the TA, or lack thereof, represents to me a minimalist attempt at getting passage by just scraping by. By stressing pay, pay, pay it almost succeeded. I am seeking a more comprehensive package and higher quality product. I purport that by raising the bar for higher acceptance, the motivation is there to obtain a quality agreement for passage, not garbage.

I understand there may be some legal constraints regarding technology. I intend to look into that further and see what can be done to address those issues and remove the impediments. Technology and legal will have to mesh.

Originally Posted by Bananie

And how do you get management to sign the contract? Go look at Section 28 and see how many signatures are there. How do you do get all those names on the left side of the page to sign the document? This is a serious question. Our contract is already 10% ahead of the competition and management was willing to go to 20%. Exactly how far ahead of your competitors will we have to be before it's not garbage?

Originally Posted by Bananie

And how do you get management to sign the contract? Go look at Section 28 and see how many signatures are there. How do you do get all those names on the left side of the page to sign the document? This is a serious question. Our contract is already 10% ahead of the competition and management was willing to go to 20%. Exactly how far ahead of your competitors will we have to be before it's not garbage?

Originally Posted by ImTumbleweed

Please enlighten us.

What is "Section 28", and of what document are you referencing? And what, exactly is it referencing?

Can you please post the source?

Then we can read it, understand it, and debate it.