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08-25-2014, 02:57 AM

#911

Alan Shore

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Exactly what are you willing to DO in order to actually USE any leverage there might be?

Whatever my union needs me to do.

08-25-2014, 04:40 AM

#912

DAL 88 Driver

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Position: ATL MD-88A

Posts: 2,874

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Shore

Whatever my union needs me to do.

Maybe you need to start thinking about what your "union" needs to be doing to restore this profession and our careers, instead of making every excuse in the book for why that's supposedly not possible.

08-25-2014, 04:44 AM

#913

forgot to bid

veut gagner à la loterie

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Position: Light Chop

Posts: 23,286

Quote:

13. Leaves of Absence
Medical
Military
Legal Duty
Transfer
Maternity
FMLA
Death in the Immediate Family
Personal Leave

14 Sick Leave
Pay and Credit
Notification/Verification of Sickness
Medical Release
Monthly Bidding
Drug/Alcohol Rehab
International Ops
Effect on Vacation
Early Return from Known Sick Leave
Workers Compensation

If you have a dependent that is hospitalized you should be able to use your sick leave to attend to them and not just have trips dropped.

08-25-2014, 04:46 AM

#914

Alan Shore

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver

Maybe you need to start thinking about what your "union" needs to be doing to restore this profession and our careers

I give that lots of thought, and I provide my reps with those thoughts on a regular basis, just as you do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver

...instead of making every excuse in the book for why that's supposedly not possible.

Every excuse in the book? Really? And just when I thought that you and I were getting back to having at least reasonable discussions.

08-25-2014, 04:52 AM

#915

DAL 88 Driver

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Position: ATL MD-88A

Posts: 2,874

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Shore

I give that lots of thought, and I provide my reps with those thoughts on a regular basis, just as you do.

If it's the same thoughts you provide here, then I'll bet your reps really enjoy your input. It's comfortable in the echo chamber.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Shore

Every excuse in the book? Really? And just when I thought that you and I were getting back to having at least reasonable discussions.

Really.

Yeah, I know. The only way to have a "reasonable discussion" with DALPA is if you agree with them...

08-25-2014, 05:23 AM

#916

chuck416

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Position: A-320/A

Posts: 588

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun

On 1 jan the rate goes to 270.00. Add in the DC plan and profit sharing around 15% and were talking 350.00 per hour.
We also worked few hours in 2013.then SW and earned more credit. One JoBerg trip on a GS could pay over 20 grand for 3 days.

So, in using the 15% contribution allocated to one's retirement, on the surface, you seem to be advocating that those funds are liquid usable dollars today, which they are/were never intended to be. That 15% contribution is/was intended to replace one's 65% FAE retirement pension, and is woefully inadequate even for that. WRT the G/S 3-day JoBerg trip, how does that work in the 717 or the -88 driver's situation? We continue to work under a concessionary contract. If we don't fix our contract under these current economic conditions, what is the point of paying our dues to DALPA?

08-25-2014, 05:25 AM

#917

tsquare

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Position: 767er Captain

Posts: 12,109

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Originally Posted by gzsg

Why does management want to reduce our profit sharing so badly??

Prove that assertion. You keep saying it, yet have yet to provide any evidence whatsoever that it has actually been floated. Yet another Fielding turd in the punchbowl.

08-25-2014, 05:27 AM

#918

tsquare

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Originally Posted by Timbo

Who gets PAID in Delta Stock Options? (management)

You want stock options? I'd take 'em in a gnats heartbeat, but I'll betcha that is an extreme minority position.

Last edited by tsquare; 08-25-2014 at 05:50 AM.

08-25-2014, 05:53 AM

#919

tsquare

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck416

This is true for the deadzoners, but not for the newbies. New hires are gonna be rich beyond your wildest dreams if they invest wisely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck416

WRT the G/S 3-day JoBerg trip, how does that work in the 717 or the -88 driver's situation? We continue to work under a concessionary contract. If we don't fix our contract under these current economic conditions, what is the point of paying our dues to DALPA?

Bigger pays more. You benefit, 88driver does not. It's what the majority wants.

08-25-2014, 05:53 AM

#920

gzsg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tsquare

Prove that assertion. You keep saying it, yet have yet to provide any evidence whatsoever that it has actually been floated. Yet another Fielding turd in the punchbowl.

Square

Are you still standing by the fact the management does not want pay banding and longer freezes as well?

You can bury your head in the sand until DALPA tells you to sell it like its hot, but it won't change the cost neutral outcome.

Jerry