Denny Crane

Don't remember about C2k but I do believe C2012 was 60 days.

Because they want to avoid "hostile" territory as much as possible? They know all they have to do is convince the Atlanta based pilots to vote yes and there will be enough yes voters in other bases to get over the hump.

Denny

Professor

Use it to discuss the pros/cons. That is what it is meant for.

Unlike you and others I am not advocating for anyone's yes or no vote.

Please, everyone, make up your own minds and vote.

TheManager

Like I thought T Bender, you currently don't have the capacity, or perhaps just lack the ability now, to analyze how we got here and how to fix it.

You have nothing of value to add to the discussion, particularly when you get blinded by your anger.

You are desperate for a few things. You have established that you want:

1. A contract that pays you now. You are well into the twilight of your shelf life as a pilot.

2. A bargaining agent that is not the DPA.

You have some mighty barriers in front of your needs at this point. It obviously agitates the turds out of you as evidenced by:

A. Your presence here again, albeit under a different screen name, and:

B. The tone of your interactions with others here. Not real professional for someone holding the company position that you do.

Try maybe coming up with ideas, solutions, that can collectively advance our group from the ditch we are in. Works better than what you are doing. On the current path, you'll just rinse and repeat - get angry, attack people here, eventually go away claiming disgust, lurk, get angry again, invent new screen name, come back, repeat.

Let's start with one simple problem. One bite at a time. How does one keep DPA at bay at a a time when they will capitalize on the crisis at hand? Ideas?

Carl Spackler

WHO...CARES! Management is the one begging for a fast timeline, not us. If they still want a fast deal, they'll negotiate the concessions out. If not, we keep cashing the profit sharing checks and live without all the concessions.

We're finally in a great spot, now you and the MEC administration are panicked to give away our position. Stunning.

Carl

Professor

AA has just published new comparison pay charts for their pilots.

In case you do not trust DALPA's pay analysis.

Carl Spackler

This is exactly what I hear from the MEC administration and negotiators. Exactly. I hope everyone here sees what we're up against. Our own Union has contempt for us and contempt for our sacrifices. They're fully identifying with management now. Fully.

Is there any surprise whatsoever we're here now?

Carl

jdborg

You ask what is half truth. I would say the comment on sick is just a straight lie. It's equivalent to taking 1$ and giving us 25 cents and telling us we are ahead.

80ktsClamp

That's pay rate only... hardly the big picture.

TheManager

Wow. And look at that! Right there in the first slide mind you.

The Merkin a330 pilots make approximately 20 bills an hour more than Delta a 330 pilots.

Why, that's $22,080 dollars a year more for the same job.

Yay. Golf claps. Great work. Especially when the a330 is going to become the predominate aircraft in our WB fleet. Awesome strategic planning and what cunning negotiating prowess to achieve that.

Carl Spackler

100% identification with management.

Stockholm Syndrome.

Carl