Details on Delta TA
06-13-2015, 08:35 PM
#8641
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: Downward-Facing Dog Pose
Posts: 1,537
Consider the options of turning down TA 2015 carefully.
If disapproved, we can end up going to arbitrage and dragging this out for 2-3 years for only a couple percent more. Then we will be ready for a new contract. Also, the arbitrator's directed to meet just industry standards.
Consider all the facts carefuly and vote wisely!
B-R
If disapproved, we can end up going to arbitrage and dragging this out for 2-3 years for only a couple percent more. Then we will be ready for a new contract. Also, the arbitrator's directed to meet just industry standards.
Consider all the facts carefuly and vote wisely!
B-R
Because you know
he's all about the pay
'bout the pay
no trouble
06-13-2015, 08:38 PM
#8642
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
BlackRocket has always shown such exceptional foresight. 
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma....html#post4047
Make sure you wave at all those Southwest planes as you taxi by D concourse in ATL... oh wait.
Southwest will "rule the skies" by 2012. They ALWAYS do a better job of hedging fuel costs and continually make a profit albeit while groing their business. My forecast is that most Legacy carriers will be scaled back to just overseas transporters with SWA as their feeder 
Make sure you wave at all those Southwest planes as you taxi by D concourse in ATL... oh wait.
06-13-2015, 08:58 PM
#8644
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
06-13-2015, 09:09 PM
#8645
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Joined APC: Jul 2011
Position: Airbus button pusher
Posts: 2,448
06-13-2015, 09:30 PM
#8646
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Working 5 to 9
Posts: 522
DAL Compensation calculations:
Assumptions; 1,000 hrs/year @ 12 years pay seniority
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Current B-777 Captain
$272 x 1,000 = $272,000 + 20% PS = $326,400
New TA 2015 B-777 Captain with 2016 pay rates
$311 x 1,000 = $311,000 + 10% PS = $342,000
That's a 2016 4.8% raise
+ 1.0% 401K contribution is a total aggregate of 5.8%
This doesn't go into effect until 1 Jan 2017, am I right?
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Current B-777 FO
$185 x 1,000 = 185,000 + 20% PS = $222,000
New TA 2015 B-777 FO with 2016 pay rates
$212 x 1,000 = $212,000 + 10% = $233,200
Thats a 2016 5.0% raise
+ 1.0% 401k contribution is a total aggregate of 6.0%
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Current B-737 Captain
$219 x 1,000 = $219,000 + 20% PS = $262,800
TA 2015 B-737 Captain with 2016 pay rates
$251 x 1,000 = $251,000 + 10% = $276,222
That's a 2016 5.4% raise
+ 1.0% 401k contribution is a total aggregate of 6.4%
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Current B-737 FO
$149 x 1,000 = $149,000 + 20% PS = $178,800
TA 2015 B-737 FO with 2016 pay rates
$170 x 1,000 = $170,000 + 10% PS = $187,000
That's a 2016 4.5% raise
+ 1.0% 401k contribution is a total aggregate of 5.5%
===========================================
Cliff's Notes
*Between the most senior pay rates from B-777 Captain to a 12 year B-737 FO...the average pay raise is appx. 5.5%
Add in the 2017 & 2018 3% pay increases and you end up having an 11.5% raise.
Consider the options of turning down TA 2015 carefully.
If disapproved, we can end up going to arbitrage and dragging this out for 2-3 years for only a couple percent more. Then we will be ready for a new contract. Also, the arbitrator's directed to meet just industry standards.
Consider all the facts carefuly and vote wisely!
B-R
Assumptions; 1,000 hrs/year @ 12 years pay seniority
===========================================
Current B-777 Captain
$272 x 1,000 = $272,000 + 20% PS = $326,400
New TA 2015 B-777 Captain with 2016 pay rates
$311 x 1,000 = $311,000 + 10% PS = $342,000
That's a 2016 4.8% raise
+ 1.0% 401K contribution is a total aggregate of 5.8%
This doesn't go into effect until 1 Jan 2017, am I right?
===========================================
Current B-777 FO
$185 x 1,000 = 185,000 + 20% PS = $222,000
New TA 2015 B-777 FO with 2016 pay rates
$212 x 1,000 = $212,000 + 10% = $233,200
Thats a 2016 5.0% raise
+ 1.0% 401k contribution is a total aggregate of 6.0%
===========================================
Current B-737 Captain
$219 x 1,000 = $219,000 + 20% PS = $262,800
TA 2015 B-737 Captain with 2016 pay rates
$251 x 1,000 = $251,000 + 10% = $276,222
That's a 2016 5.4% raise
+ 1.0% 401k contribution is a total aggregate of 6.4%
===========================================
Current B-737 FO
$149 x 1,000 = $149,000 + 20% PS = $178,800
TA 2015 B-737 FO with 2016 pay rates
$170 x 1,000 = $170,000 + 10% PS = $187,000
That's a 2016 4.5% raise
+ 1.0% 401k contribution is a total aggregate of 5.5%
===========================================
Cliff's Notes
*Between the most senior pay rates from B-777 Captain to a 12 year B-737 FO...the average pay raise is appx. 5.5%
Add in the 2017 & 2018 3% pay increases and you end up having an 11.5% raise.
Consider the options of turning down TA 2015 carefully.
If disapproved, we can end up going to arbitrage and dragging this out for 2-3 years for only a couple percent more. Then we will be ready for a new contract. Also, the arbitrator's directed to meet just industry standards.
Consider all the facts carefuly and vote wisely!
B-R
06-13-2015, 09:46 PM
#8648
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Urban chicken rancher.
Posts: 6,070
DAL Compensation calculations:
Assumptions; 1,000 hrs/year @ 12 years pay seniority
===========================================
Current B-777 Captain
$272 x 1,000 = $272,000 + 20% PS = $326,400
New TA 2015 B-777 Captain with 2016 pay rates
$311 x 1,000 = $311,000 + 10% PS = $342,000
That's a 2016 4.8% raise
+ 1.0% 401K contribution is a total aggregate of 5.8%
===========================================
Current B-777 FO
$185 x 1,000 = 185,000 + 20% PS = $222,000
New TA 2015 B-777 FO with 2016 pay rates
$212 x 1,000 = $212,000 + 10% = $233,200
Thats a 2016 5.0% raise
+ 1.0% 401k contribution is a total aggregate of 6.0%
===========================================
Current B-737 Captain
$219 x 1,000 = $219,000 + 20% PS = $262,800
TA 2015 B-737 Captain with 2016 pay rates
$251 x 1,000 = $251,000 + 10% = $276,222
That's a 2016 5.4% raise
+ 1.0% 401k contribution is a total aggregate of 6.4%
===========================================
Current B-737 FO
$149 x 1,000 = $149,000 + 20% PS = $178,800
TA 2015 B-737 FO with 2016 pay rates
$170 x 1,000 = $170,000 + 10% PS = $187,000
That's a 2016 4.5% raise
+ 1.0% 401k contribution is a total aggregate of 5.5%
===========================================
Cliff's Notes
*Between the most senior pay rates from B-777 Captain to a 12 year B-737 FO...the average pay raise is appx. 5.5%
Add in the 2017 & 2018 3% pay increases and you end up having an 11.5% raise.
Consider the options of turning down TA 2015 carefully.
If disapproved, we can end up going to arbitrage and dragging this out for 2-3 years for only a couple percent more. Then we will be ready for a new contract. Also, the arbitrator's directed to meet just industry standards.
Consider all the facts carefuly and vote wisely!
B-R
Assumptions; 1,000 hrs/year @ 12 years pay seniority
===========================================
Current B-777 Captain
$272 x 1,000 = $272,000 + 20% PS = $326,400
New TA 2015 B-777 Captain with 2016 pay rates
$311 x 1,000 = $311,000 + 10% PS = $342,000
That's a 2016 4.8% raise
+ 1.0% 401K contribution is a total aggregate of 5.8%
===========================================
Current B-777 FO
$185 x 1,000 = 185,000 + 20% PS = $222,000
New TA 2015 B-777 FO with 2016 pay rates
$212 x 1,000 = $212,000 + 10% = $233,200
Thats a 2016 5.0% raise
+ 1.0% 401k contribution is a total aggregate of 6.0%
===========================================
Current B-737 Captain
$219 x 1,000 = $219,000 + 20% PS = $262,800
TA 2015 B-737 Captain with 2016 pay rates
$251 x 1,000 = $251,000 + 10% = $276,222
That's a 2016 5.4% raise
+ 1.0% 401k contribution is a total aggregate of 6.4%
===========================================
Current B-737 FO
$149 x 1,000 = $149,000 + 20% PS = $178,800
TA 2015 B-737 FO with 2016 pay rates
$170 x 1,000 = $170,000 + 10% PS = $187,000
That's a 2016 4.5% raise
+ 1.0% 401k contribution is a total aggregate of 5.5%
===========================================
Cliff's Notes
*Between the most senior pay rates from B-777 Captain to a 12 year B-737 FO...the average pay raise is appx. 5.5%
Add in the 2017 & 2018 3% pay increases and you end up having an 11.5% raise.
Consider the options of turning down TA 2015 carefully.
If disapproved, we can end up going to arbitrage and dragging this out for 2-3 years for only a couple percent more. Then we will be ready for a new contract. Also, the arbitrator's directed to meet just industry standards.
Consider all the facts carefuly and vote wisely!
B-R
I'd rather live with the current contract than sell my soul for 5% and a nickel per diem.
06-13-2015, 10:23 PM
#8649
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 328
06-13-2015, 10:32 PM
#8650
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,603
How much scope was given away at the top and bottom of the operation? I'm aware of many of the AA/Usair concessions for the new payscale but scope seems the be the glaring issue with the delta TA. There will always be certain groups of pilots willing to give certain work rules to get certain pay rates. However scope is something no pilot should ever give away. Have we learned nothing from the last 15 years?
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