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Old 06-13-2015, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
From which we can subtract any profit sharing we get under the current contract......

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There will be no PS after 2016. Read my lips. Hello ? The top 10 analyst who have been around for decades cause their clients know they are spot on are all saying the market will crash after Oct 2015. All the billionaires have moved out of the market and gone short. Remember March 9th when many believed it wouldn't happen and the DOW hit 6,600 ? All the mutual funds were destroyed. It has taken 8 to 10 years to recoup. This is chump to what is going to happen.
Ask yourself, why would Delta ram a TA through 6 months early ? Oh, it's not because there is an airplane order to place. Don't be naive.
In my opinion, it's one of two things. Purely a guess.
1) to get pilots to accept lower pay for hopes of PS knowing there isn't going to be any. Delta mgmnt is well plugged into Wallstreet.
2) they want to buy Alaska with 3rd party and 3rd party won't engage with contract due.
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Old 06-13-2015, 06:36 PM
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The funny thing about the E175 at DCI and E190 here, one is outsourced, one is ours:





The funny thing will be if they bring the E190s back east to do one half of the shuttle and run E170s at DCI for the other half of the shuttle.
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Old 06-13-2015, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Sorry I'm not the doom and gloom type. I will go with the company's prediction for profits the next three years.

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Denny, It's not about type. It's about knowledge. It's the biggest factual no brainer since last upset. These are facts.
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Old 06-13-2015, 06:43 PM
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just flew my first leg since the TA-turd dropped. told the FA's in the van that if the turd passes their profit sharing will be cut in half and will fund our pay raise. went over real well...
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Old 06-13-2015, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
They're an Atlanta based law firm founded by Michael Campbell who was also a VP for us, retired, then came back to handle these negotiations for management. The firm specializes in breaking unions and industrial psychological ops. Many posters here who came from the regionals know all too well the tactics they use. Specifically, co-opting Union leaders and weakening the target Union from the inside.

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I'm so happy that Mr. Campbell is still actively taking money out of our pockets. He worked for Delta for about 7 years. Google his stock awards over that period of time. Make you sick.
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Old 06-13-2015, 06:48 PM
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Odd thing about the FO LCA thing. You have an FO getting GS #8, GS #9 in NYC73N. To get to the point where said FO gets #8 and #9, they had to have nobody available.

What's the plan when he doesn't have that time off anymore?
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Originally Posted by mark350
just flew my first leg since the TA-turd dropped. told the FA's in the van that if the turd passes their profit sharing will be cut in half and will fund our pay raise. went over real well...


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Old 06-13-2015, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bounty Man
So let's assume there is no PS. what about that ? I'm willing to prove to anybody if you PM me that we are going to be in a total market disaster over next 3 years. THERE WILL BE NO PS !!!. Calculate that into this POS TA.
I'm keeping all my powder dry (money out of all investments) because I fear you are correct. The writing is on the wall. I just don't know what I should be doing in the meantime. Wait for a correction? What else is there?
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Old 06-13-2015, 06:54 PM
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To be clear, unlike what slowplay stated, the LCA trip pull thing is NOT industry standard.

Only united has the 75% thing-- US has some but it's overall a different deal, and the AA thing has been explained to me several times but I can't quite make heads or tails of it. Virtually all other airlines (FDX and the regionals, too) are similar to what we have (with varying recovery obligations).

It is a MAJOR concession that will affect all FOs as well as junior CAs.
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Originally Posted by Bounty Man
Denny, It's not about type. It's about knowledge. It's the biggest factual no brainer since last upset. These are facts.
Nevermind...don't want to dilute an otherwise meaningful conversation in this thread...
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