Details on Delta TA
06-12-2015, 01:28 PM
#8121
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Amazing. The new negotiators notepad uses Delta's "estimated earnings" to juice up the pay comparison with profit sharing.
Remember C12? DALPA refused to speculate on Delta's future earnings during that sales job.
Whose side is DALPA on? Not mine.
Remember C12? DALPA refused to speculate on Delta's future earnings during that sales job.
Whose side is DALPA on? Not mine.
06-12-2015, 01:28 PM
#8122
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Denny
06-12-2015, 01:33 PM
#8123
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It's the only decent thing in the whole mess. That's all they want to talk about.
06-12-2015, 01:34 PM
#8124
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And this guy says the reason to rush is to get that money flowing sooner. As airline pilots, does that make sense to any of you.
Professor, do you compress the time for your checklists and skip your departure briefing at an unfamiliar airport because you want to start getting paid sooner?
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06-12-2015, 01:34 PM
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I haven't been posting here much. I've been playing over in ChitChat Land.
The SL 3 year retroactive look back is disturbing to me on many levels. I just don't get why you (DALPA) would permit punishment for behavior that is contractually legal in the previous contract.
I didn't pay attention to the number of sick days that I took in the last three years. I can't tell you how many days I took. What I do know is I never exceeded the 100 verification hours, ever.
Under the proposed TA, if I have 14 days, this activity will result in my having to verify my next sick call immediately. I don't have any records. I wasn't required to keep any. Potentially, I will be in this purgatory for three years before my record would be cleared. I can't get a cold, the flu or food poisoning.
All this to punish less than one percent of the group. What about the 99% that played by the rules? Retroactivity usually results in a check, not a punch.
The SL 3 year retroactive look back is disturbing to me on many levels. I just don't get why you (DALPA) would permit punishment for behavior that is contractually legal in the previous contract.
I didn't pay attention to the number of sick days that I took in the last three years. I can't tell you how many days I took. What I do know is I never exceeded the 100 verification hours, ever.
Under the proposed TA, if I have 14 days, this activity will result in my having to verify my next sick call immediately. I don't have any records. I wasn't required to keep any. Potentially, I will be in this purgatory for three years before my record would be cleared. I can't get a cold, the flu or food poisoning.
All this to punish less than one percent of the group. What about the 99% that played by the rules? Retroactivity usually results in a check, not a punch.
06-12-2015, 01:36 PM
#8126
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06-12-2015, 01:36 PM
#8127
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These other items are a BFD's! The lifeblood of a pilots legal right to fly are his medical records. I as sure as hell don't want the company messing with mine for any reason. Before we even start to talk about pay rates, the ability of the company to demand access to my medical records under ANY circumstances needs to be removed! Wasn't there a time when ALPA stood for safety. Intimating pilots to not call in sick is the antitheses of what that organization should be about.
06-12-2015, 01:37 PM
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Time will tell……
06-12-2015, 01:39 PM
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How about truth to the rumor that fewer MEC members want the TA to fail (don't recommend it) than pass...but the majority wanted all pilots to make it so?
A road show including the recommendations of the MEC wouldn't hurt, and it would be telling if those who own the TA actually think it stinks.
A road show including the recommendations of the MEC wouldn't hurt, and it would be telling if those who own the TA actually think it stinks.
06-12-2015, 01:40 PM
#8130
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It's this kind of shiat why alpa needs to go. I never thought I would say this, ever, but it's time. Tomorrow morning I will send in a card to ask for a vote for different representation. There comes a point in time where you current provider has just screwed the pooch too many times.
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