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Old 06-12-2015, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
What page of the TA has the 9% widebody capacity growth during the life of the PWA?
I fail to see where we are going to put 9% more wide bodies. the JV language states our share is 50% +/- 1%, meaning the can go as low as 49% or as high as 51%. The agreement with our JV partners for half of the flying, more or less prohibits us from flying more than our share. Our participation in the LHR is limited by the VA JV, we gave up the NRT hub concept. LA is constrained because we are not paying the officials in LA more than AA is to keep us out.
Where are they going to go?
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Professor
It's not it the TA. That is public information based on fleet plans.
So they should have no pronlem locking that in with iron clad language with harsh penalties for noncompliance.

Right?
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonny Drama
Yes, but because of being in a very junior category I am already bidding in the 30% realm a year in, so I get a fair amount of GSs offered. I hawk open time and have traded into a half dozen LCA trips in the last six months when they have been in open time.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:26 AM
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One is a contract to balance flying.
The other is a projected wide body business decision.

I clearly all wide bodies coming will not be deployed in a single theater.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Stealing is taking the contracted minimum flying and undercutting it for years intentionally and then settling it for pennies on the dollar. If you're going to steal do it right.
The guy that said he was stealing was out of line. Anybody that can use the contract to their benefit, I say more power to 'em. Sounds like the 30% on top of him in his category are clueless about how to use the contract if he is swapping IN to LCP trips.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:28 AM
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The MEC Chairman can approve... an international partner carrier.. to use the Delta livery, markings, brand name on their aircraft.

...So Virgin Atlantic or China Southern can call themselves Delta, and paint their aircraft as such, and sell tickets using our brand, simply by His approval. Shanghai hub makes a lot more sense now. We just won't be flying it!!!
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Quint
Just read all the red in the sick leave section.

Ridiculous.
Where is this "red" section for all to read. Links would be great when discussing a source (but I'm not smart enough to execute this).
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Hero68
WOW...ratification period reduced to 30 days...we will be voting on this TURD while it is still warm and steaming...unbelievable!!!
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Voting window will be open from June 24th thru July 10th, 2015..our MEC reduced the ratification window from 60 days to 30 days.
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Voting window is 17 days...30 days from the date the MEC decided to unveil the turd is from June 10th to July 10th..an extremely compressed timeline...I agree that is has only taken me a day to solidify my NO vote.
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I asked my rep why we are waiving the 60 day ratification period and he said that it is 30. I then out that the contrails put out on June 5th had the exact section 9 timeline in it and it says 60 days unless there are mitigating circumstances. I don't see that being the case unless you consider just because the company wants it done as reason. So ask your reps.
Good....we could have the vote tomorrow and I'd be happy. I don't need a road show, sales job or more time to study this turd to cast my NO vote. The sooner we flush this turd the sooner they can get back to the negotiating table. I can live with the current contract while they continue negotiations. If the company really needs a deal soon, they can belly up to the negotiating table with a little more give than take.
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
The MEC Chairman can approve... an international partner carrier.. to use the Delta livery, markings, brand name on their aircraft.

...So Virgin Atlantic or China Southern can call themselves Delta, and paint their aircraft as such, and sell tickets using our brand, simply by His approval. Shanghai hub makes a lot more sense now. We just won't be flying it!!!
Say whaaaaaaat?
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
The MEC Chairman can approve... an international partner carrier.. to use the Delta livery, markings, brand name on their aircraft.

...So Virgin Atlantic or China Southern can call themselves Delta, and paint their aircraft as such, and sell tickets using our brand, simply by His approval. Shanghai hub makes a lot more sense now. We just won't be flying it!!!
That's interesting and I haven't heard that interpretation before. was that in the ta?

Regardless, I'd do whatever it took to get solid routes in China. Even if that means having JV in the short term.
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