Carl Spackler

You shouldn't be enjoying it man...it's an unsutainable competitive model. Small gauge with high wage can't compete against large gauge high wage. It would force management to shift even more flying to the JV partners. Small gauge high wage puts our pilot cost per seat mile through the roof.

Carl

BenderRodriguez

Says the man at the top of the pyramid.

Fetzervalve

Delta buddy of mine says he is voting an emphatic NO. Delta will expand the fleet with or without the passage of the TA. This carrot is idiotic and contrary to Delta's history of fleet growth.

Flyinbayeaux

So does anyone else think a MEMRAT vote is a sham and this will pass, even if by the slimmest of margins because the vote will be rigged?

Perhaps it my cynical outlook due to the recent spate of federal and local election voting irregularities. Maybe its because coming from Louisiana I'm used to dirty politics. Either way, I do not trust the system.

volav8r1

I worry about that too! What a joke of a system.

EdGrimley

I think we can all agree that DALPA scope language and agreements have not been what they were promised to be the last few years. They certainly sound good during the sales presentation. Then when we get down the road and start hearing pinging noises and the wheels fall off we realize it was another bad deal with no recourse. Same story for C2015, although this may be the most damaging voluntary agreement (not under BK) we've seen put in a TA.

The pieces of this puzzle are scattered all over the place, just the way they like it. The JV scope violation got settled for pennies on the dollar (no mention of bringing the numbers back into compliance?). Now a cockamamie proposal to allow the violation to continue unabated without penalty and lower our percentage. Where are all the details of the scope violation settlement btw? Did it or did it not say they would bring the ratios back into compliance?? I didn't think so.

If you haven't noticed the eagerness management has to create more equity purchase agreements with foreign airlines and create more JV's such as Virgin Atlantic, you aren't paying attention. Ed was just saying yesterday or the day before how glad he is to be talking with Korean air and half a dozen other foreign operators. Even if we lose just a little bit (but probably a lot) on each of these deals, the total ends up significantly reducing widebody flying (the holy grail because of the higher pay) for Delta pilots.

I understand some equitable form of international code share is necessary (ie cannot access some markets without it) but let's please stop the madness leading to Delta pilots flying 737's across the pond while a dozen other airlines do the heavy lifting with A380's, 777-300, 777X, etc. Vote no on TA2015!

Professor

Full TA language is up on the DALPA site.

The JV language is worth very careful study.

TheWagman

The analysts are thrilled we are losing profit sharing...

In a Wednesday research note, JPMorgan analyst Jamie Baker called the deal "a welcome revision to the industry's most generous profit sharing program."

MrBojangles

how do we go about recalling the reps? I have no idea about that. I had let my DPA card expire because they got a little off the rails and nutty sounding with that lawsuit, but now I'm sending it back in. I can't believe how feeble most of our union is.

Timbo

Yeah...because giving share holders only 80% of the profits the employees worked so hard to produce, and sacrificed pay cuts and lost retirement plans to produce is just too little! I mean, it's only what, $6 Billion? Awww...cry me a river.