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06-10-2015, 07:55 PM
#7601
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man this thing stinks! I find it hard to believe that anyone put they wanted all these concessions in exchange for a pretty small raise on their survey. it's almost like our contract is aligning with the regionals as far as sick time goes. The LCA bidding thing is a huge QOL hit for FO's. I could go on, but those two things are enough for my no vote. I had let my DPA card lapse, but think i'll be turning it back in now. I'm in shock by this (in a way, but not really)
06-10-2015, 08:00 PM
#7602
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 463
Maybe. I could also see a quick round two after a no vote with really shiny rates that takes all PS away. Also, they have changed part of the equation in determining profit. Anyone smart already disect that piece yet? I heard someone explaining it and it didn't sound good.
The question is, can management get enough votes to reach that illustrious 51%? They were smart to ask for the sun, moon and stars (in collaboration with their ALPA sales team). If they throw a couple bones back and get to yes they still knocked it out of the park. Not exactly the same but reference the CDO walkback exchanged for another hit to reserve call out times.
06-10-2015, 08:00 PM
#7603
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06-10-2015, 08:05 PM
#7604
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This is my prediction. After seeing how toxic this agreement is to the pilots, management will walk back a couple items and insert another to take it's place. The union will again repeat "this is the best deal you will ever get and no way is it getting better, take the deal now!". Some will cave. Others will patiently wait for the right deal even if it includes the traditional contract negotiation track.
The question is, can management get enough votes to reach that illustrious 51%? They were smart to ask for the sun, moon and stars (in collaboration with their ALPA sales team). If they throw a couple bones back and get to yes they still knocked it out of the park. Not exactly the same but reference the CDO walkback exchanged for another hit to reserve call out times.
The question is, can management get enough votes to reach that illustrious 51%? They were smart to ask for the sun, moon and stars (in collaboration with their ALPA sales team). If they throw a couple bones back and get to yes they still knocked it out of the park. Not exactly the same but reference the CDO walkback exchanged for another hit to reserve call out times.
06-10-2015, 08:06 PM
#7605
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06-10-2015, 08:12 PM
#7606
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-...025200151.html
Here's the first carrot.
Just so you know... don't let this influence your vote. I was made aware of the intentions to get more 739s months ago...
Here's the first carrot.
Just so you know... don't let this influence your vote. I was made aware of the intentions to get more 739s months ago...
06-10-2015, 08:16 PM
#7609
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 463
man this thing stinks! I find it hard to believe that anyone put they wanted all these concessions in exchange for a pretty small raise on their survey. it's almost like our contract is aligning with the regionals as far as sick time goes. The LCA bidding thing is a huge QOL hit for FO's. I could go on, but those two things are enough for my no vote. I had let my DPA card lapse, but think i'll be turning it back in now. I'm in shock by this (in a way, but not really)
We got lulled into a state of complacency. We have been writing letters fighting causes shoulder to shoulder with our management while they had Mike Campbell orchestrating a plan to decimate the rest of our contract.
I can't help but think back to the time we had the opportunity to bring Compass to Delta. Moak and his sales team made up every excuse in the book why it couldn't happen. So many blown opportunities. Now we find ourselves in a grave situation. We let our guard down and the water is now boiling. Do we have the fortitude and willpower to jump out of the pot?
06-10-2015, 08:19 PM
#7610
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta-...025200151.html
Here's the first carrot.
Just so you know... don't let this influence your vote. I was made aware of the intentions to get more 739s months ago...
Here's the first carrot.
Just so you know... don't let this influence your vote. I was made aware of the intentions to get more 739s months ago...
"Delta will also order an additional 40 new Boeing 737-900ERs, augmenting an existing order of the efficient and reliable aircraft to 140 in total. Delta plans to deploy these aircraft as replacements for other narrowbody aircraft scheduled to retire through 2019."
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