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06-10-2015, 05:29 PM
#7521
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
Posts: 6,971
Ok, here is a quick list why this turd should be rejected. Feel free to ad to it:
1. Credit Suisse article showing its actually putting money in the company's pocket every year
2. Loss of Profit Sharing/buying our own raise. What's the company's predicted profit for the next three years? Also tweaking how PS is calculated will lower the amount
3. 3.b.4 will surely be triggered again and we will probably get around a 3% raise (a guess on my part)
4. 75% of LCA trips pulled out affects every FO in that category not just 180
5. More large RJ to DCI
6. JV metric changed to block hours from EASK's and lowered.
7. Only 1% to DC plan and that not until 2017
8. 5 to 10 cents more on per diem, puhleeze
9. Sick leave debacle. Third party verification? Not good if true
10. Vacation and training only adding 15 minutes a day?
11. New hire training freeze now 24 months? Throw the new hire under the bus
These off the top of my head......
Denny
1. Credit Suisse article showing its actually putting money in the company's pocket every year
2. Loss of Profit Sharing/buying our own raise. What's the company's predicted profit for the next three years? Also tweaking how PS is calculated will lower the amount
3. 3.b.4 will surely be triggered again and we will probably get around a 3% raise (a guess on my part)
4. 75% of LCA trips pulled out affects every FO in that category not just 180
5. More large RJ to DCI
6. JV metric changed to block hours from EASK's and lowered.
7. Only 1% to DC plan and that not until 2017
8. 5 to 10 cents more on per diem, puhleeze
9. Sick leave debacle. Third party verification? Not good if true
10. Vacation and training only adding 15 minutes a day?
11. New hire training freeze now 24 months? Throw the new hire under the bus
These off the top of my head......
Denny
06-10-2015, 05:31 PM
#7525
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
Posts: 6,971
Ok, here is a quick list why this turd should be rejected. Feel free to ad to it:
1. Credit Suisse article showing its actually putting money in the company's pocket every year
2. Loss of Profit Sharing/buying our own raise. What's the company's predicted profit for the next three years? Also tweaking how PS is calculated will lower the amount
3. 3.b.4 will surely be triggered again and we will probably get around a 3% raise (a guess on my part)
4. 75% of LCA trips pulled out affects every FO in that category not just 180
5. More large RJ to DCI
6. JV metric changed to block hours from EASK's and lowered.
7. Only 1% to DC plan and that not until 2017
8. 5 to 10 cents more on per diem, puhleeze
9. Sick leave debacle. Third party verification? Not good if true
10. Vacation and training only adding 15 minutes a day?
11. New hire training freeze now 24 months? Throw the new hire under the bus
These off the top of my head......
Denny
1. Credit Suisse article showing its actually putting money in the company's pocket every year
2. Loss of Profit Sharing/buying our own raise. What's the company's predicted profit for the next three years? Also tweaking how PS is calculated will lower the amount
3. 3.b.4 will surely be triggered again and we will probably get around a 3% raise (a guess on my part)
4. 75% of LCA trips pulled out affects every FO in that category not just 180
5. More large RJ to DCI
6. JV metric changed to block hours from EASK's and lowered.
7. Only 1% to DC plan and that not until 2017
8. 5 to 10 cents more on per diem, puhleeze
9. Sick leave debacle. Third party verification? Not good if true
10. Vacation and training only adding 15 minutes a day?
11. New hire training freeze now 24 months? Throw the new hire under the bus
These off the top of my head......
Denny
Denny
06-10-2015, 05:34 PM
#7526
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Joined APC: Nov 2009
Position: JFK A-330 A
Posts: 277
06-10-2015, 05:36 PM
#7527
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Joined APC: Apr 2005
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 696
06-10-2015, 05:45 PM
#7528
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Posts: 463
Sorry about the large image.
12. Ab Initio. Very little detail so far but this, along with more large RJ's, breaths new life into outsourcing at the "regional" level.
It helps management produce more pilots in a short period of time and has been shown to produce pilots that are not safe. They lack experience that traditional vetting provides. It's bad for the profession in multiple ways.
Delta and other regional are throwing $80K additional money over 3 or 4 year to regional guys willing to stick around just so they can keep the RJ experiment/ whipsaw alive. I imagine they will lobby (with ALPA's help) to reduce required flight time and pay pilot candidates to go through pilot puppy academies to fill seats under contract. Why ALPA would join in this affair is anybodies guess. Oh yeah, Richard asked. Kill it now before it grows.
12. Ab Initio. Very little detail so far but this, along with more large RJ's, breaths new life into outsourcing at the "regional" level.
It helps management produce more pilots in a short period of time and has been shown to produce pilots that are not safe. They lack experience that traditional vetting provides. It's bad for the profession in multiple ways.
Delta and other regional are throwing $80K additional money over 3 or 4 year to regional guys willing to stick around just so they can keep the RJ experiment/ whipsaw alive. I imagine they will lobby (with ALPA's help) to reduce required flight time and pay pilot candidates to go through pilot puppy academies to fill seats under contract. Why ALPA would join in this affair is anybodies guess. Oh yeah, Richard asked. Kill it now before it grows.
06-10-2015, 05:45 PM
#7529
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
Posts: 6,971
Ok, here is a quick list why this turd should be rejected. Feel free to ad to it:
1. Credit Suisse article showing its actually putting money in the company's pocket every year
2. Loss of Profit Sharing/buying our own raise. What's the company's predicted profit for the next three years? Also tweaking how PS is calculated will lower the amount
3. 3.b.4 will surely be triggered again and we will probably get around a 3% raise (a guess on my part)
4. 75% of LCA trips pulled out affects every FO in that category not just 180
5. More large RJ to DCI
6. JV metric changed to block hours from EASK's and lowered.
7. Only 1% to DC plan and that not until 2017
8. 5 to 10 cents more on per diem, puhleeze
9. Sick leave debacle. Third party verification? Not good if true
10. Vacation and training only adding 15 minutes a day?
11. New hire training freeze now 24 months? Throw the new hire under the bus
These off the top of my head......
Denny
1. Credit Suisse article showing its actually putting money in the company's pocket every year
2. Loss of Profit Sharing/buying our own raise. What's the company's predicted profit for the next three years? Also tweaking how PS is calculated will lower the amount
3. 3.b.4 will surely be triggered again and we will probably get around a 3% raise (a guess on my part)
4. 75% of LCA trips pulled out affects every FO in that category not just 180
5. More large RJ to DCI
6. JV metric changed to block hours from EASK's and lowered.
7. Only 1% to DC plan and that not until 2017
8. 5 to 10 cents more on per diem, puhleeze
9. Sick leave debacle. Third party verification? Not good if true
10. Vacation and training only adding 15 minutes a day?
11. New hire training freeze now 24 months? Throw the new hire under the bus
These off the top of my head......
Denny
06-10-2015, 05:48 PM
#7530
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 93
I find this TA very motivating. It motivated me to email my ALPA reps several times pleading with them to vote no. (thank you NY reps, I think). It also motivated me to sign up for this forum and not just lurk. And if Caplinger wasn't such a tool it would motivate me to renew my DPA card. This last item is probably the most positive statement I will say about the TA.
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