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Old 06-10-2015, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TheWagman
The whole presentation slides yesterday I believe are under library when you login to Delta Alpa
All that is there now is the highlights. The 98 page document is gone. (I have it though)
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Old 06-10-2015, 06:54 AM
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Today's session is much more interesting than yesterday.
So far it has been all about scope and transAtlantic JV.
These are the slides that everyone needs to see. I hope the MEC will publish them.
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Old 06-10-2015, 06:57 AM
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This TA is a turd.

Im asking all my fellow DAL pilots to please call your your reps and kill this thing at the MEC level. They are voting today.

If it passes the MEC- the pilot group will vote to accept.

The idea that we're contemplating a concessionary TA during this time in our history leaves me speechless.

The idea we'd allow the abrogation of bidding seniority to occur to ANY part of our seniority list is offensive.

The idea that were paying for our own raises with cuts to PS that we already paid DEARLY for astounds me.

The idea we're going to invite more company intrusion into our lives regarding sick leave makes me angry.

I could go on, but I won't. These are just some of the nuggets of this TA that will compel me to vote NO if the MEC sends it to us.

Please call your reps and let this TA die on the table with them. No deal is certainly better than THIS deal.

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Old 06-10-2015, 06:57 AM
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What was the MEC itenerary today? As in, what time does this get passed and sent to memory rat?
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Old 06-10-2015, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
All that is there now is the highlights. The 98 page document is gone. (I have it though)
Supposedly there were a few typos in some of the slides (I heard something about the 190 rates being off by a bit...) and they are apparently being edited prior to reposting them.
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Old 06-10-2015, 06:58 AM
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8/.25/3/3 these are the real numbers after we buy our raise with profit sharing giveback. The negotiations need to continue or we are giving concessions for sub standard pay.
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
What was the MEC itenerary today? As in, what time does this get passed and sent to memory rat?
They are S L O W L Y working their way through Q&A with the scope guys, which is a good thing. After that they will continue Q&A on the other sections with the negotiators.

They are supposed to get to a vote at some point today, but we'll see if that actually happens. There is a lot of ground yet to cover.
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:05 AM
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Any clarification yet on what the new JV formula means for Delta widebody jobs?


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Old 06-10-2015, 07:08 AM
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After the economy and market go in the chitter after October 2015 there won't be any Profit Sharing. That and the new language will provide less than 2% PS at best. Send this back and change it to hard dollars, not pie in the sky. 12-9-6-6 at minimum.
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Old 06-10-2015, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ERflyer
This contract will raise our guaranteed pay rates 21.5% and if your projections for profit are accurate we will still get an additional 30% of W-2 in profit sharing even after trading some profit sharing for pay rates.
Uhhhhh.......You are definitely going to have to show me the math that nets us an additional 30% via profit sharing with a $6 billion dollar 20% threshold. I'm guessing it it would take around an $8 billion profit under the current $2.5 billion threshold to get there.

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