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06-07-2015, 01:41 PM
#6031
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 181
IMO, the TA will disappoint you. Like you, I want more. My path to more is different than yours.
06-07-2015, 01:44 PM
#6033
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: Power top
Posts: 2,960
You have to admire our management's courage. To announce a $5 billion buy back during historic negotiations with the only union on the property takes an enormous amount of confidence. Confidence that they can control any process or outcome. The confidence to dominate us under what would appear to be the best of times for labor to recoup our losses. If our MEC can't bear the responsibility we've given them, it's time for a change.
06-07-2015, 01:45 PM
#6034
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 618
Second off, with regards to your other posts. I don't care. At all, not one bit about how other employee groups view our contract or our profit sharing.
We are unionized and as such are constantly negotiating against 'ghost' labor in the company. Frankly I resent it, because the 'me too' syndrome we have to fight the company on at the negotiating table is tiresome.
Because we are an organized labor group we have a process and a system in place to deal with new contracts that is totally separate and apart from all other proceedings at the airline. This isn't an opinion its a fact of federal law. The DALPA by-laws, RLA and NMB run our negotiating show.
What Delta management decides to do or not do with other contracts is totally and completely their call. It has nothing to do with Delta pilot representation nor the Delta pilots themselves.
To suggest that the company will have to 'reduce salaries' if X, Y or Z happens inside of the Delta pilots' contract is emotional blackmail. If not straight out blackmail of other labor groups.
It isn't appreciated.
06-07-2015, 02:16 PM
#6036
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Joined APC: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,576
Run along now and discuss things on a forum/discussion board of your peers. It's none of your business what we make as it's none of my business what you make. I would never go on a FA , below or above wing discussion and give my opinion. Your opinion here is not welcome.
The company wants to lower PS for pilots so more money diverts to the thousands of other employees; particularly the ready reserves. Why do you think there was an early PS payout last year? The 1300 hour limit for RR was enacted 10/1/13-9/30/14 and many of them reached the limit and didn't have income coming in. Also, the 3% raise for ready reserves amounts to $.36 an hour. Imagine the anger from RR employees if their PS checks are smaller!
06-07-2015, 02:46 PM
#6040
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,730
You have to admire our management's courage. To announce a $5 billion buy back during historic negotiations with the only union on the property takes an enormous amount of confidence. Confidence that they can control any process or outcome. The confidence to dominate us under what would appear to be the best of times for labor to recoup our losses. If our MEC can't bear the responsibility we've given them, it's time for a change.
When Richard said, "Labor Risk has been taken off the table." That would have been a good time for the MEC Chairman to say, "Not so fast...".
But that's not what happened. Silence implies consent.
Now go back and look at what happened in 2012. Management opened early, dangled a shiny new (used) jet (717) and rushed them into 4, 8.5,3,3 deal, trading profit sharing, but oh... you'll never see those two 3% raises, Richard is going to buy parts of American, or Alaska, or something, and we'll be back in negotiations.
It worked so well in 2012, why wouldn't Management run the exact same play again? They did. And it worked again. And if this p.o.s. passes, we STILL won't be back at 2004 pay rates, in 2019! Never mind inflation for 15 years!
15 years of ongoing concessions, no wonder Delta is making Billions. Some of that money used to be OUR money, in pay rates and retirement funding. And now the MEC wants to trade MORE profit sharing for puny raises?? Are you kidding me?
When we gave concessions in bankruptcy, we didn't give pay OR retirement, we gave BOTH. Now I want BOTH back. Not one or the other, BOTH. The profit sharing is our only hope to putting enough money away to retire on, if we trade it away for 3% pay raises, well, we are idiots.
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