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Old 06-05-2015, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by EdGrimley
Ahhh, shiny jet syndrome. Now had this been a C-series it would totally be worth self funding to help buy an airplane Delta is going to buy anyway.
And they are all growth. Promise we won't park MD 88s.

Vote yes!!!!!!!
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Old 06-05-2015, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr

Histerical and sad at the same time. Nothing is funnier than the truth.

What is it about these suckers that they so badly need a pat on the head and to be told how smart they are?
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by EdGrimley
Ahhh, shiny jet syndrome. Now had this been a C-series it would totally be worth self funding to help buy an airplane Delta is going to buy anyway.
The way it was explained to me was the C Series was way too expensive and not even proven. They were saying E190 not 195, I think the 195 would be better.
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:18 PM
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The way it was explained to me was the C Series was way too expensive and not even proven. They were saying E190 not 195, I think the 195 would be better.
What are you willing to give up to get the C-series?
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by D Mantooth
Actually, if you formulate the trade as I suggested above, there will never be a scenario in which you come out behind.
That's based on the assumption of reducing the first tier of PS (the limited section) and then the company profit falling below that threshold within that tier. That would be a lot of lost profits (the second tier would be completely gone in order to get to that point). That is a pretty narrow range to be in that scenario, yet not running losses.

If we went from 4-6B/yr in profits to a loss, you can bet they'd come for a "haircut" and probably get it if it lasted long enough. We would never get the same PS levels back again though in any circumstance once we trade it away.
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:26 PM
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From Deltanet:

Delta reaches tentative agreement with ALPA
June 5, 2015

Delta has been in negotiations with the Air Line Pilots Association for a new pilot working agreement. On Thursday, a tentative agreement was reached with the ALPA negotiating committee.
Out of respect for the next steps in the ALPA process, Delta will not be offering further comment at this time - both with employees and outside of Delta with the news media and others.
Further information will be shared when it’s appropriate.

Your profit sharing is perfectly safe, the pilots survey requires they would never give that up however, we will be unable to show you the results until after ALPA releases them. We will not be commenting further out of respect for the ALPA process and their time honored tradition of secrecy.

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Old 06-05-2015, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
8/0/3/3

Then subtract 2% per year for inflation 6/0/1/1

Historic
Then subtract the cost of concessions and lost PS that drove even those low numbers.

If true this is the easiest no vote in history.
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:29 PM
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Have they published the times and location of the special mec meetings next week?
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:40 PM
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No way it's C-series, and no way it's brand-new jungle jets. The mainline rates for Embraers would have to come way up to get me to notice, anyway. Current Delta PWA rate is $131.42 for the E190, and $154.48 for the E195. That's less than the right seat of the ER.

There are some other pay rates they have to work out. I was hoping to see the C-series in Delta colors - it looked like a possible future Mad Dog replacement, but the stars just aren't lining up for it.
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:40 PM
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It's not on the calendar yet. You will probably get at least 4 days notice to arrange your travel.

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