Details on Delta TA
06-05-2015, 11:47 AM
#5731
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Actually, if you formulate the trade as I suggested above, there will never be a scenario in which you come out behind.
06-05-2015, 11:50 AM
#5732
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I have and the replies I received just made me have less confidence in DALPA. I hope my feelings are wrong but I strongly doubt it.
06-05-2015, 11:51 AM
#5733
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I recall the tone of the C001 meeting just a few days ago (6/1). The chairman seemed very frustrated with some of the things going on with the NC. He noted they were finally getting down to "third rail" items the pilots had indicated were a no go. But at the same time he said the company shopping cart was very full while the pilot cart, not so much. Of course all of this is top secret, behind closed door kind of stuff that the great unwashed are not allowed see. I got the impression that C1 thought the NC was going off the res…but then maybe the other councils think the same of them. I was heartened that he seemed to be willing not to accept a bad deal. I hope he is not alone in that.
Now suddenly we have a TA. Did RA's team suddenly roll over (seriously doubt that)…did our team? I guess we will know in a few days.
Now suddenly we have a TA. Did RA's team suddenly roll over (seriously doubt that)…did our team? I guess we will know in a few days.
06-05-2015, 11:55 AM
#5735
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FWIW<
The longer I look at the above, the more I think it's junk math.
Look at what the mud dog driver would make if the rumored numbers are true and look at what he would make if we don't have a deal by the end of 2016. (235K v. 216K) It's about 9% more.
Combining years and dividing the percentage by two is a strange way to view the amounts. The first 6 months of both examples is the same; but somehow that gets added to the whole for the percentage change. Not really an honest method....
06-05-2015, 11:55 AM
#5736
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This was forwarded to me, doyd…
Generic Napkin Math, based on 2014 PS %, percentages if incorrect would still be comparable.
"Typical MD-88 Captain"
Rumored:
2015
75 hours @ $206 Jan thru July = $108,150
75 Hours @ $223 Aug - Dec = $83,430 (8% DOS)
Total Salary = $191,580
Est. Profit Sharing @ 16.5% = $31,610
Total Compensation = $223,190
2016
Salary @ 236 ( 6% -1/1/16) = $212,400
Est. Profit sharing = $23,347 (33% reduction or 5.75% decrease)
Total = $235,764
2 Year Total compensation with rumored raises= $458,954
Status Quo
2015
Salary @ $206 = $185,400
Est. Profit Sharing = $30,591
Total = $215,991
2016
Salary @ $212.18 = $190,962
Est. Profit Sharing = $31,508
Total = $222,470
2 Year Total compensation without TA = $438, 461
Rumored = 458, 954
Staus Quo = 438,661
Difference = $20,492 over 2 years or Approx 2.25% raise per year…….
Generic Napkin Math, based on 2014 PS %, percentages if incorrect would still be comparable.
"Typical MD-88 Captain"
Rumored:
2015
75 hours @ $206 Jan thru July = $108,150
75 Hours @ $223 Aug - Dec = $83,430 (8% DOS)
Total Salary = $191,580
Est. Profit Sharing @ 16.5% = $31,610
Total Compensation = $223,190
2016
Salary @ 236 ( 6% -1/1/16) = $212,400
Est. Profit sharing = $23,347 (33% reduction or 5.75% decrease)
Total = $235,764
2 Year Total compensation with rumored raises= $458,954
Status Quo
2015
Salary @ $206 = $185,400
Est. Profit Sharing = $30,591
Total = $215,991
2016
Salary @ $212.18 = $190,962
Est. Profit Sharing = $31,508
Total = $222,470
2 Year Total compensation without TA = $438, 461
Rumored = 458, 954
Staus Quo = 438,661
Difference = $20,492 over 2 years or Approx 2.25% raise per year…….
06-05-2015, 12:12 PM
#5739
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