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06-04-2015, 07:20 PM
#5601
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
06-04-2015, 07:21 PM
#5602
Back on TDY
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
Forget about the fact that the democrat party is so much more than Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Forget about the fact that the Republican Party is so much more than GW Bush. Personalize the entire organization as one person, and it'll likely work. That's why DALPA's Special Committee went with the tried and true method of identifying DPA as Caplinger. It's nothing personal, just gutter politics from a bankrupt ideology.
Carl
06-04-2015, 07:33 PM
#5604
Gets Weekends Off
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Joined APC: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,108
Here's a random thought:
The MEC is obviously divided on the merits of this agreement.
I hate to see our union go through this divisive exercise. We need unity.
There might be a way to get a 19-0 vote.
ALPA is always accused of mounting a "sales job".
Whether you agree or not, a lot of pilots perceive that as somehow unfair.
That sales ritual is the source of nearly all the acrimony and divisiveness.
One option would be to simply empower the rank and file:
Send it out without the MEC formally recommending a yes or no vote.
Let the line pilots read it and decide for themselves.
Individual ALPA officials can opine to their hearts content.
Just refrain from activating the "machine" this time.
Small "d" democracy. Writ large.
The MEC is obviously divided on the merits of this agreement.
I hate to see our union go through this divisive exercise. We need unity.
There might be a way to get a 19-0 vote.
ALPA is always accused of mounting a "sales job".
Whether you agree or not, a lot of pilots perceive that as somehow unfair.
That sales ritual is the source of nearly all the acrimony and divisiveness.
One option would be to simply empower the rank and file:
Send it out without the MEC formally recommending a yes or no vote.
Let the line pilots read it and decide for themselves.
Individual ALPA officials can opine to their hearts content.
Just refrain from activating the "machine" this time.
Small "d" democracy. Writ large.
Management needs 19-0 because the challenges that come with adding 2 or 3 more fleets while retiring hundreds of captains each year for the next decade are unparalleled.
The Delta pilots deserve the promised historic PWA after our billions in concessions.
ALPA needs 19-0 because our pilots are detached and see ALPA as a failure.
For me 19-0 is an automatic yes vote. I wear my ALPA pin and contribute to the PAC.
Another mins run C2012 is a game changing mistake.
Now is not the time to be cheap. I have no doubt the machine can push this through.
If they do, the will win the battle and lose the war.
The ramifications will be severe.
06-04-2015, 07:53 PM
#5606
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,994
what i heard while checking in this afternoon
7/3/3/3
2 more dc but taken from profit sharing
loss of 40 hours of sick
verification at 80 per year
no more oe bumps
no change to vacation or cq pay
no per diem increase
aint no way this piece of crap can possibly be our next cba. definitely no
7/3/3/3
2 more dc but taken from profit sharing
loss of 40 hours of sick
verification at 80 per year
no more oe bumps
no change to vacation or cq pay
no per diem increase
aint no way this piece of crap can possibly be our next cba. definitely no
06-04-2015, 07:56 PM
#5607
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
No OE bumps seems like quite an abrogation of seniority... I hope that one isn't true. We'll find out next week!
I'd rather be on the right side of history than the winning or losing side any day.
I'd rather be on the right side of history than the winning or losing side any day.
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