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06-04-2015, 07:29 AM
#5461
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Not that more regional jets would be good but no:
He stated, "what if they asked for 25 more 76-sweaters"...
And included that the offer was tied to a 4-1 mainline:RJ ratio of B717-sized (100-seat) jets ie for every 1 additional RJ 4 more baby-mainline jets.
So no not entertaining bigger jets off property, just more of current limit.
Besides the negative implication of any more trades, why do the scope deals always involve the smallest mainline? Why not tie any increase of small jet (outsource) flying (76 or less seats) to acquisition of A330 and bigger (74, 380, 76ER, 777,etc)?
06-04-2015, 07:38 AM
#5462
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You know more than me if you know what all the pet issues are.. I was just speculating in very general terms of what might be happening.
06-04-2015, 07:49 AM
#5464
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Moak said to us during a road show, he believed RJ's presented an opportunity for new pilots to pay their dues, and provide feed to mainline, which, in turn, led to increased mainline growth. Many of his followers share that same view.
06-04-2015, 08:07 AM
#5465
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Not that more regional jets would be good but no:
He stated, "what if they asked for 25 more 76-sweaters"...
And included that the offer was tied to a 4-1 mainline:RJ ratio of B717-sized (100-seat) jets ie for every 1 additional RJ 4 more baby-mainline jets.
So no not entertaining bigger jets off property, just more of current limit.
Besides the negative implication of any more trades, why do the scope deals always involve the smallest mainline? Why not tie any increase of small jet (outsource) flying (76 or less seats) to acquisition of A330 and bigger (74, 380, 76ER, 777,etc)?
He stated, "what if they asked for 25 more 76-sweaters"...
And included that the offer was tied to a 4-1 mainline:RJ ratio of B717-sized (100-seat) jets ie for every 1 additional RJ 4 more baby-mainline jets.
So no not entertaining bigger jets off property, just more of current limit.
Besides the negative implication of any more trades, why do the scope deals always involve the smallest mainline? Why not tie any increase of small jet (outsource) flying (76 or less seats) to acquisition of A330 and bigger (74, 380, 76ER, 777,etc)?
When DAL adds 35 A330's and 25 A350's over the next 3-4 years, we don't want that to be a trigger on RJ limits.
06-04-2015, 08:07 AM
#5466
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Or do they only represent the NYC commuters?
06-04-2015, 08:10 AM
#5467
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The funny part was Compass had a few AA furloughs and one was in the room. Let's just say he did not agree
06-04-2015, 08:18 AM
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If the New York reps are holding up (and possibly exchanging) more money for everyone in exchange for cabs for commuters, surely they are also working for a stipend to pay the higher living expenses of their pilots who live in New York?
Or do they only represent the NYC commuters?
Or do they only represent the NYC commuters?
The cost for cabs, or more realistically for an increased capacity shuttle system (perhaps with the occasional cab to cover rare peak overflows) is so low it wouldn't move the needle and would increase reliability and operational integrity.
Base specific COLA on the other hand is a treacherous can of worms that is absolutely unworkable.
Neither is a commuter vs local issue either. Not to mention most "locals" are still commuters.
06-04-2015, 08:27 AM
#5469
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The "tri base" in NYC is abject fantasy. Its unrealistic, for locals or commuters alike, to expect to cover that much logistical real estate. You can only live/crashpad/hotel in one place and no matter where you pick the "tri base" is completely unrealistic.
The cost for cabs, or more realistically for an increased capacity shuttle system (perhaps with the occasional cab to cover rare peak overflows) is so low it wouldn't move the needle and would increase reliability and operational integrity.
Base specific COLA on the other hand is a treacherous can of worms that is absolutely unworkable.
Neither is a commuter vs local issue either. Not to mention most "locals" are still commuters.
The cost for cabs, or more realistically for an increased capacity shuttle system (perhaps with the occasional cab to cover rare peak overflows) is so low it wouldn't move the needle and would increase reliability and operational integrity.
Base specific COLA on the other hand is a treacherous can of worms that is absolutely unworkable.
Neither is a commuter vs local issue either. Not to mention most "locals" are still commuters.
06-04-2015, 08:31 AM
#5470
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The "tri base" in NYC is abject fantasy. Its unrealistic, for locals or commuters alike, to expect to cover that much logistical real estate. You can only live/crashpad/hotel in one place and no matter where you pick the "tri base" is completely unrealistic.
The cost for cabs, or more realistically for an increased capacity shuttle system (perhaps with the occasional cab to cover rare peak overflows) is so low it wouldn't move the needle and would increase reliability and operational integrity.
Base specific COLA on the other hand is a treacherous can of worms that is absolutely unworkable.
Neither is a commuter vs local issue either. Not to mention most "locals" are still commuters.
The cost for cabs, or more realistically for an increased capacity shuttle system (perhaps with the occasional cab to cover rare peak overflows) is so low it wouldn't move the needle and would increase reliability and operational integrity.
Base specific COLA on the other hand is a treacherous can of worms that is absolutely unworkable.
Neither is a commuter vs local issue either. Not to mention most "locals" are still commuters.
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