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05-30-2015, 05:34 PM
#5171
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,456
On time On target
Ok. Enough facts for one day. Here's my personal indulgence.
Will someone please explain. "On time On target" to me.
I am completely serious. More directly, define time and define target. My assumption is that it can't be done. Time is irrelevant or subjective or not a finite moment (too many late layovers watching Morgan Freeman or Neil Tyson) and target is secret.
If this is the case can I request an admission that this if fluff and a move to a new mantra/slogan. However, if someone could enlighten me I would appreciate it.
And also can I get a new stylus pen?
Will someone please explain. "On time On target" to me.
I am completely serious. More directly, define time and define target. My assumption is that it can't be done. Time is irrelevant or subjective or not a finite moment (too many late layovers watching Morgan Freeman or Neil Tyson) and target is secret.
If this is the case can I request an admission that this if fluff and a move to a new mantra/slogan. However, if someone could enlighten me I would appreciate it.
And also can I get a new stylus pen?
05-30-2015, 05:56 PM
#5172
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
A little industrial psychology 101. If you float a ton of concession rumors, the group will react, but in the end will accept one or two concessions and feel like they escaped with a victory. That's what is happening right now.
Change your mindset. Demand improvements in every section. Stop spreading the rumors or accepting them as valid, much less reasonable. This corporation is running 20% profit margins. It's now or never.
We will never see a better chance to improve our way of life. Write your reps. Demand more, not one concession. There is no reason to accept a concession, and 6 billion reasons to demand a better contract.
Change your mindset. Demand improvements in every section. Stop spreading the rumors or accepting them as valid, much less reasonable. This corporation is running 20% profit margins. It's now or never.
We will never see a better chance to improve our way of life. Write your reps. Demand more, not one concession. There is no reason to accept a concession, and 6 billion reasons to demand a better contract.
05-30-2015, 05:58 PM
#5173
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Ok. Enough facts for one day. Here's my personal indulgence.
Will someone please explain. "On time On target" to me.
I am completely serious. More directly, define time and define target. My assumption is that it can't be done. Time is irrelevant or subjective or not a finite moment (too many late layovers watching Morgan Freeman or Neil Tyson) and target is secret.
If this is the case can I request an admission that this if fluff and a move to a new mantra/slogan. However, if someone could enlighten me I would appreciate it.
And also can I get a new stylus pen?
Will someone please explain. "On time On target" to me.
I am completely serious. More directly, define time and define target. My assumption is that it can't be done. Time is irrelevant or subjective or not a finite moment (too many late layovers watching Morgan Freeman or Neil Tyson) and target is secret.
If this is the case can I request an admission that this if fluff and a move to a new mantra/slogan. However, if someone could enlighten me I would appreciate it.
And also can I get a new stylus pen?
05-30-2015, 06:02 PM
#5174
Back on TDY
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
Ok. Enough facts for one day. Here's my personal indulgence.
Will someone please explain. "On time On target" to me.
I am completely serious. More directly, define time and define target. My assumption is that it can't be done. Time is irrelevant or subjective or not a finite moment (too many late layovers watching Morgan Freeman or Neil Tyson) and target is secret.
If this is the case can I request an admission that this if fluff and a move to a new mantra/slogan. However, if someone could enlighten me I would appreciate it.
And also can I get a new stylus pen?
Will someone please explain. "On time On target" to me.
I am completely serious. More directly, define time and define target. My assumption is that it can't be done. Time is irrelevant or subjective or not a finite moment (too many late layovers watching Morgan Freeman or Neil Tyson) and target is secret.
If this is the case can I request an admission that this if fluff and a move to a new mantra/slogan. However, if someone could enlighten me I would appreciate it.
And also can I get a new stylus pen?
This new slogan is poll tested to ensure ANY contract negotiated meets the standard...of the slogan.
Carl
05-30-2015, 06:06 PM
#5175
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
A little industrial psychology 101. If you float a ton of concession rumors, the group will react, but in the end will accept one or two concessions and feel like they escaped with a victory. That's what is happening right now.
Change your mindset. Demand improvements in every section. Stop spreading the rumors or accepting them as valid, much less reasonable. This corporation is running 20% profit margins. It's now or never.
We will never see a better chance to improve our way of life. Write your reps. Demand more, not one concession. There is no reason to accept a concession, and 6 billion reasons to demand a better contract.
Change your mindset. Demand improvements in every section. Stop spreading the rumors or accepting them as valid, much less reasonable. This corporation is running 20% profit margins. It's now or never.
We will never see a better chance to improve our way of life. Write your reps. Demand more, not one concession. There is no reason to accept a concession, and 6 billion reasons to demand a better contract.
Anyways, time value of money. There. Build towards the next contract or go nowhere. Look at SWA, five years overdue, do you want to go down that route if you could have improvements across the board TODAY?
Improvements such as, fewer RJs at DCI, better productivity balance with JVs, pay raises in section 3 with DOS increase starting this summer, less at risk pay, and improvements that lead to more first time Captain opportunities. And then more in 3 years.
Our do you want to go the SWA route?
You would say...
05-30-2015, 06:09 PM
#5176
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Permanently scarred
Posts: 1,707
A little industrial psychology 101. If you float a ton of concession rumors, the group will react, but in the end will accept one or two concessions and feel like they escaped with a victory. That's what is happening right now.
Change your mindset. Demand improvements in every section. Stop spreading the rumors or accepting them as valid, much less reasonable. This corporation is running 20% profit margins. It's now or never.
We will never see a better chance to improve our way of life. Write your reps. Demand more, not one concession. There is no reason to accept a concession, and 6 billion reasons to demand a better contract.
Change your mindset. Demand improvements in every section. Stop spreading the rumors or accepting them as valid, much less reasonable. This corporation is running 20% profit margins. It's now or never.
We will never see a better chance to improve our way of life. Write your reps. Demand more, not one concession. There is no reason to accept a concession, and 6 billion reasons to demand a better contract.
Thank you! I hear these rumors and think the sky must be falling! What the What?!!!! How in the world could any of this be true?
I've resigned myself to ignore this $#!t until I see what's really going to come down, but I must admit these rumors can't help but affect one's expectations. Being one who was disappointed by C2012 and knew we were giving up too much at the time, I KNOW we're in an even better position this time around, so I've got that as a counter weight to this propaganda machine of expectation management. But I fear the average YES voter from C2012 might easily be managed if they're getting wind of these "rumors."
05-30-2015, 06:10 PM
#5177
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Let me guess a response by some: two hands in a bush is better than one hand in a bird so... wait... one bird in a hand is better than two eggs in a bush... wait... now really just wait... Why would I want a bird in my hand?
Anyways, time value of money. There. Build towards the next contract or go nowhere. Look at SWA, five years overdue, do you want to go down that route if you could have improvements across the board TODAY?
Improvements such as, fewer RJs at DCI, better productivity balance with JVs, pay raises in section 3 with DOS increase starting this summer, less at risk pay, and improvements that lead to more first time Captain opportunities. And then more in 3 years.
Our do you want to go the SWA route?
You would say...
Anyways, time value of money. There. Build towards the next contract or go nowhere. Look at SWA, five years overdue, do you want to go down that route if you could have improvements across the board TODAY?
Improvements such as, fewer RJs at DCI, better productivity balance with JVs, pay raises in section 3 with DOS increase starting this summer, less at risk pay, and improvements that lead to more first time Captain opportunities. And then more in 3 years.
Our do you want to go the SWA route?
You would say...
05-30-2015, 06:11 PM
#5178
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
You know what would've been cool?
If DALPA had laid out the exact cost to operate CRJ900s/E175s here and taken into account the quality control, productivity and ROI that operating those jets at mainline instead of DCI provided the company and then published it and flight for it.
Whatever nickle and dime short comings we'd had because of pilot hourly pay would've been more than made up for with improved QC, productivity and roi.
You could have made that argument and the it down for all to know is what you demanded.
If DALPA had laid out the exact cost to operate CRJ900s/E175s here and taken into account the quality control, productivity and ROI that operating those jets at mainline instead of DCI provided the company and then published it and flight for it.
Whatever nickle and dime short comings we'd had because of pilot hourly pay would've been more than made up for with improved QC, productivity and roi.
You could have made that argument and the it down for all to know is what you demanded.
05-30-2015, 06:13 PM
#5179
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,456
I was going to let this one marinate but too many came to mind instantly.
No time no target
No soup for you, target
Time out, off target
Industrial psyched
Next
I could rule the twitter-verse with this gold. Ok maybe not. Feel free to play along.
No time no target
No soup for you, target
Time out, off target
Industrial psyched
Next
I could rule the twitter-verse with this gold. Ok maybe not. Feel free to play along.
05-30-2015, 06:16 PM
#5180
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 367
Delta C2015
Can we fix the outstation sits and airplane swaps. It's getting a little ridiculous. Have a nice 6 hour block day, oh but wait!! Well throw in an airport standby and get you up to 12 duty hours for free!!! Call now
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