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#4872
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#4875
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The group as always and will always be fragmented along these very lines. That's why this all or nothing tripe from the vocal minority (and make no mistake, it IS a minority) is extremely counterproductive. If you want a deal that will get 75% yes vote, I GUARANTEE you that majority of those voting yes will be holding their nose over something. You are naive if you believe otherwise.
I am not condemning bottom end scope. I am thinking it is not as big an issue as it is be made out to be because of the industry dynamics right now. The newbies aren't gonna want to waste their time with RJs when they will be flying 717s in 5 years. (Sticky that if you wan) But if the group wants to waste negotiating capital on it, then that is what we will do. JMHO, YMMV
#4876
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Nor does their willingness to sacrifice retirement issues for bottom end scope endear them to the top half. Nothing new here.
The group as always and will always be fragmented along these very lines. That's why this all or nothing tripe from the vocal minority (and make no mistake, it IS a minority) is extremely counterproductive. If you want a deal that will get 75% yes vote, I GUARANTEE you that majority of those voting yes will be holding their nose over something. You are naive if you believe otherwise.
I am not condemning bottom end scope. I am thinking it is not as big an issue as it is be made out to be because of the industry dynamics right now. The newbies aren't gonna want to waste their time with RJs when they will be flying 717s in 5 years. (Sticky that if you wan) But if the group wants to waste negotiating capital on it, then that is what we will do. JMHO, YMMV
The group as always and will always be fragmented along these very lines. That's why this all or nothing tripe from the vocal minority (and make no mistake, it IS a minority) is extremely counterproductive. If you want a deal that will get 75% yes vote, I GUARANTEE you that majority of those voting yes will be holding their nose over something. You are naive if you believe otherwise.
I am not condemning bottom end scope. I am thinking it is not as big an issue as it is be made out to be because of the industry dynamics right now. The newbies aren't gonna want to waste their time with RJs when they will be flying 717s in 5 years. (Sticky that if you wan) But if the group wants to waste negotiating capital on it, then that is what we will do. JMHO, YMMV
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#4877
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Yeah, insanity is right.
Edit: And I love how you ALWAYS spin everything into a junior/senior, old/young, N/S, ALPA/gods at DPA, thing. You are the farthest thing from a unifier these boards. YOU are the one doing that Jerry. Every post.
#4878
I am not condemning bottom end scope. I am thinking it is not as big an issue as it is be made out to be because of the industry dynamics right now. The newbies aren't gonna want to waste their time with RJs when they will be flying 717s in 5 years. (Sticky that if you wan) But if the group wants to waste negotiating capital on it, then that is what we will do. JMHO, YMMV
#4879
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The 50 seaters may die on their own but I don't think holding the line on the 76 seaters is a waste of capital. If we give another round of concessions on those and allow more of them to be outsourced then there are going to be fewer 717 jobs (or even 88 or 737 jobs) eventually.
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