Details on Delta TA
05-21-2015, 06:51 PM
#4531
Straight QOL, homie
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And it's laughable to think MEM would have voted in favor.
05-21-2015, 06:56 PM
#4532
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Capt
Posts: 2,049
I agree, if the union can't hit at least a triple with this environment, the people responsible should be embarrassed. History has proven many reps are not easily embarrassed.
05-21-2015, 06:59 PM
#4533
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I'm pretty sure going from the best sick leave in the business to the worst and going from industry leading profit sharing to less than United profit sharing wasn't in the survey. Also pretty sure leading the industry AGAIN in allowing more large rj's to keep the connection planes flying was not in the survey. This contract is going to be below industry standard in every area except pay rates.
05-21-2015, 07:11 PM
#4535
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
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Two completely different things and you know it. Some reps loved it, some hated it, some felt like they were put in a no-win situation by the negotiators signing the TA without redirection...and reluctantly voted YES. Voting your conscience based on what gets put in front of you does not equate to process being properly followed.
Saddam Hussein won his last election 100% to 0%. In the world of shiznit, that's pretty indicative that process was followed.
More BS. You have no idea how that vote would have gone.
Why would they vote it down if they felt the result for their pilots would be worse given the awful position they'd been put in? The best indication of what the reps believed is the reps tossing the guilty within O'Malley's administration, and O'Malley being replaced. The best indication of one pilot base's judgment was tossing you from office and replacing you with a terrific young rep.
Carl
Saddam Hussein won his last election 100% to 0%. In the world of shiznit, that's pretty indicative that process was followed.
More BS. You have no idea how that vote would have gone.
Carl
05-21-2015, 07:14 PM
#4536
Straight QOL, homie
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05-21-2015, 07:22 PM
#4538
Da Hudge
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The big red flag on my horizon is the fact that harwood has inserted himself in the process again.
Other than that, I'm in wait and see mode given what I know.
05-21-2015, 07:54 PM
#4539
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2011
Position: 73na
Posts: 27
I do have some connections, and I'm not seeing this playing out in that manner yet. Everything that Jerry has yelled about has not come to fruition.
The big red flag on my horizon is the fact that harwood has inserted himself in the process again.
Other than that, I'm in wait and see mode given what I know.
The big red flag on my horizon is the fact that harwood has inserted himself in the process again.
Other than that, I'm in wait and see mode given what I know.
05-21-2015, 08:02 PM
#4540
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Joined APC: Jul 2011
Position: 73 lifer
Posts: 130
Delta pilots voting in favor of C2012 voted for it at a higher percentage than voted for the JCBA.
NWA pilots voted for the JCBA at over 86%. 16% more than the Delta C2K vote!
What do any of those percentages mean without context?
About that JCBA...delaying making a deal on that TA on the NWA side cost all of us 2% pay and DC parity. You want to TVM that loss since the merger? That's with our current management team BTW.
29 months is the average contract negotiation time. Even our own sordid history shows that delaying costs us and retro isn't 100%.
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