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05-06-2015, 07:34 PM
#3921
Runs with scissors
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Did the strategy work or not?
Did we not get huge raises, and retroactive pay, or not?
I believe it was more than...4,8,3,3.
AND we had still had a retirement plan.
05-06-2015, 07:37 PM
#3922
Back on TDY
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05-06-2015, 07:50 PM
#3923
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
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New to ALPA and new to Delta. I've also been wondering why I haven't heard or seen any of this from DALPA? I hear a LOT about the ME airline threat (legitimate), but nothing on what is just as important - the current negotiation and what we should be striving for. It's not the fight-for-me union I thought I was walking into. Seems like a personnel wing of the company itself.
Yes, right now, the ME3 is "The Threat" for all of us. I think that is probably why our MEC has been kissing RA's arse for years. Not that that is a bad thing, we need the A4A's MONEY to bribe our politicians to keep the ME3 out of all of our bigger cities. We can work together, with the A4A, to keep them out, hopefully, or we will go the way of the US Cruise Ship Industry.
That is why I think they have become a personnel wing of the company itself. They want to be on the 'same team' as the company. They don't want to pizz off the company, or they might not get invited to the next birthday party or ball game...
Part of the problem is, some of the guys running the Union, have not been line pilots for the last 10 years. They have not had to fly under the concessions they negotiated. The MEC Chairman from our last Bankruptcy Contract giveaway went to DC and is now a Lobbiest. Some of his Lieutenants are hoping they can get a DC gig too..if they just don't upset the apple cart.
So, it's up to us line pukes to call BS on the crap that's about to go down... again.
Carl and I have seen this movie too many times, I hope our new guys will see through the BS before it's too late.
If you need a Mentor, I'm available, I need crew too, so sack up and bring some beer, I'm almost out!
05-06-2015, 08:02 PM
#3925
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05-06-2015, 08:05 PM
#3926
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,418
05-06-2015, 08:30 PM
#3929
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,994
Ted, welcome to the show, and keep asking questions.
Yes, right now, the ME3 is "The Threat" for all of us. I think that is probably why our MEC has been kissing RA's arse for years. Not that that is a bad thing, we need the A4A's MONEY to bribe our politicians to keep the ME3 out of all of our bigger cities. We can work together, with the A4A, to keep them out, hopefully, or we will go the way of the US Cruise Ship Industry.
That is why I think they have become a personnel wing of the company itself. They want to be on the 'same team' as the company. They don't want to pizz off the company, or they might not get invited to the next birthday party or ball game...
Part of the problem is, some of the guys running the Union, have not been line pilots for the last 10 years. They have not had to fly under the concessions they negotiated. The MEC Chairman from our last Bankruptcy Contract giveaway went to DC and is now a Lobbiest. Some of his Lieutenants are hoping they can get a DC gig too..if they just don't upset the apple cart.
So, it's up to us line pukes to call BS on the crap that's about to go down... again.
Carl and I have seen this movie too many times, I hope our new guys will see through the BS before it's too late.
If you need a Mentor, I'm available, I need crew too, so sack up and bring some beer, I'm almost out!
Off on my beer run...
05-06-2015, 08:34 PM
#3930
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,919
If you are going to make a comparison between the to groups, then you need to present all the pertaining facts and information. I guess one sided facts and half truths help your case.
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