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#3741
I tend to agree as well. I like the higher degree of certainty of pay rates versus profit sharing. I also think the math of such a conversion should be easy to understand.
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#3743
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#3744
We all know what happens when the gloomy days are amongst us, right? The company comes after and successfully reduces our wages and quality of life. We need to keep PS, and enhance our work rules and pay rates because we know that one little hiccup or misfire will bring it all down, AGAIN.
It saddens me that we have so many co-workers that "think" management really cares for our well being and that we should concede or not challenge. MGTs' only care is about their pay, shareholders and profits (which is admirable and correct management goals). We do have leverage, think about it. We fly the aircraft safely with excellent Ambassadorship.
I am FOR 18/5/5/5, better work rules and same or better PS schedule.
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#3745
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Then, and only then, should we consent to exploring the possibility of trading profit sharing for rates. Same for the JV grievance. There must be three separate transactions.
If we allow the company to roll PS into C15...we get rolled. I don't understand why so many guys are so anxious to push us away from PS.
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#3747
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That's fine. Let's first negotiate C15 as a standalone product.
Then, and only then, should we consent to exploring the possibility of trading profit sharing for rates. Same for the JV grievance bogey must be three separate transactions.
If we allow the company to roll PS into C15...we get rolled. I don't understand why so many guys are so anxious to push us away from PS.
Then, and only then, should we consent to exploring the possibility of trading profit sharing for rates. Same for the JV grievance bogey must be three separate transactions.
If we allow the company to roll PS into C15...we get rolled. I don't understand why so many guys are so anxious to push us away from PS.
#3748
#3749
Ok. So we agree there is no harm by keeping PS untouched. PS should not even be put into the equation. I expect it to be untouched. I expect at least a 30% pay-raise. I expect better retirement,medical and crew-meals too.
Just say'n.
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Just say'n.
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Last edited by TenYearsGone; 04-29-2015 at 12:15 PM.
#3750
Oberon makes a good point about the increases in headcount. I don't have a measure for that when you look systemwide for all employee groups.
It's still all just napkin math. I trust my MEC to do the numbers, they've been providing accurate costing to check the Company's math for the last 7 years.
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