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04-12-2015, 05:15 PM

#3641

scambo1

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Originally Posted by Karnak

The TA in 2012 was approved by the MEC 15-4, then ratified by a clear majority of the Delta pilots. If you felt personally insulted, then perhaps your Insult Threshold is different than most of us?

Slightly revised or facts omitted.

04-12-2015, 06:19 PM

#3642

Carl Spackler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karnak

The TA in 2012 was approved by the MEC 15-4, then ratified by a clear majority of the Delta pilots.

You keep trying to use the 15-4 vote as tacit proof that our union's procedures were properly followed. They were not. The proof of that is how many MEC administrators were fired afterward.

You are one of the last of the old guard still clinging to the talking points that all procedures were followed to the letter in TA 2012. You are one loyal soldier.

Carl

04-12-2015, 06:33 PM

#3643

Model Citezen

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karnak

The TA in 2012 was approved by the MEC 15-4, then ratified by a clear majority of the Delta pilots. If you felt personally insulted, then perhaps your Insult Threshold is different than most of us?

The vote of record on the C2012 contract was 14-5. Not 15-4.

MC

04-13-2015, 05:34 AM

#3644

ExAF

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Originally Posted by Hawaii50

Are you trying to manage my expectations? TIC

Lordy I hope so!

04-13-2015, 06:44 AM

#3645

BenderRodriguez

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheManager

Insulting will be coming back with a TA that isn't vetted by the MEC and does not meet our minimums, like last time.

I hate to disagree with you on this one, because the TA was ratified. It met the majority's "minimums".

04-13-2015, 06:46 AM

#3646

gzsg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez

I hate to disagree with you on this one, because the TA was ratified. It met the majority's "minimums".

And how did Tim O'Malleys re-election go? Did it meet the minimums for the majority?

04-13-2015, 06:47 AM

#3647

BenderRodriguez

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Originally Posted by gzsg

And how did Tim O'Malleys re-election go? Did it meet the minimums for the majority?

Not sure how that related. Care to enlighten me?

04-13-2015, 07:12 AM

#3648

TheManager

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karnak

The TA in 2012 was approved by the MEC 15-4, then ratified by a clear majority of the Delta pilots. If you felt personally insulted, then perhaps your Insult Threshold is different than most of us?

04-13-2015, 07:16 AM

#3649

TheManager

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez

I hate to disagree with you on this one, because the TA was ratified. It met the majority's "minimums".

Really? Really!

04-13-2015, 08:53 AM

#3650

Falcon7

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

You keep trying to use the 15-4 vote as tacit proof that our union's procedures were properly followed. They were not. The proof of that is how many MEC administrators were fired afterward.
Carl

Which MEC Administers were fired and wasn't the negotiating committee chairman re-elected?