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04-02-2015, 06:15 PM
#3413
ready for mo money
Joined APC: May 2013
Position: Left Behind
Posts: 84
I'm a shareholder, I didn't get their opener.
Yeah, and at NWA we never led at anything either... In fact we never got close to DAL rates.
Again, you have no idea why DALPA has decided to not share management's opener with us.
At NWA, we saw our detailed opening position and management's opener. We were also a responsible bargaining agent. The truth is, DALPA refuses to bend on it. Your attempt at making it sound like normal behavior betrays the lack of confidence in the position DALPA is now wed to.
At NWA, we saw our detailed opening position and management's opener. We were also a responsible bargaining agent. The truth is, DALPA refuses to bend on it. Your attempt at making it sound like normal behavior betrays the lack of confidence in the position DALPA is now wed to.
04-02-2015, 06:53 PM
#3415
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2009
Position: Lowest Pay I Could Find
Posts: 1,044
I don't GAS where you work....but you are not a seniority list delta pilot. Who cares. Not me. Ask me your question and I will answer it.
04-03-2015, 02:14 AM
#3418
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: Capt
Posts: 38
Wow...
What a bunch of diverse BS...Our pilot group wants and needs compensation commensurate with out sacrifices...period! Unfortunately I have to exempt those who did not sacrifice, so I have no choice but ignore the voices of the newbys...they did not sacrifice.
As for the rest of us: get real! We want a better package! Profit sharing is just what it describes...SHARING what management happens to create as profits. It IS NOT part of our normal compensation! It can be thousands or it can be ZERO...and it is not our choice! But it is a result of out sacrifices! We may get it OR we don't...we have no control over that bit of money that is presented to us!!!
Treat it as such! We are "Sharing" in the success of our company based on the fact that we took pay cuts to create those profits that they now want to count as part of the compensation that we gave up! I want pay rates commensurate with our contribution...and I consider us lacking in that arena!
P.S. When they give us back the millions we lost in pension payments...we can talk "equitatable compensation"
LP
What a bunch of diverse BS...Our pilot group wants and needs compensation commensurate with out sacrifices...period! Unfortunately I have to exempt those who did not sacrifice, so I have no choice but ignore the voices of the newbys...they did not sacrifice.
As for the rest of us: get real! We want a better package! Profit sharing is just what it describes...SHARING what management happens to create as profits. It IS NOT part of our normal compensation! It can be thousands or it can be ZERO...and it is not our choice! But it is a result of out sacrifices! We may get it OR we don't...we have no control over that bit of money that is presented to us!!!
Treat it as such! We are "Sharing" in the success of our company based on the fact that we took pay cuts to create those profits that they now want to count as part of the compensation that we gave up! I want pay rates commensurate with our contribution...and I consider us lacking in that arena!
P.S. When they give us back the millions we lost in pension payments...we can talk "equitatable compensation"
LP
04-03-2015, 04:49 AM
#3420
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Posts: 852
The comments on Profit Sharing are helpful. It's good to see the different perspectives on what it represents.
It's fun to read Carl claim we don't lead the industry in any areas in the same thread he comments on Profit Sharing. Name a pilot group that gets more.
Or a pilot group with a better ADG, or better augmentation limits (8 & 12). The augmentation rules should be obvious and important to those who fly international.
It's fun to read Carl claim we don't lead the industry in any areas in the same thread he comments on Profit Sharing. Name a pilot group that gets more.
Or a pilot group with a better ADG, or better augmentation limits (8 & 12). The augmentation rules should be obvious and important to those who fly international.
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