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03-24-2015, 06:05 PM
#3301
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
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I know we didn't get to see it in 2012, when they did open for 0% raises.
03-24-2015, 06:07 PM
#3302
Back on TDY
Joined APC: Apr 2008
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Carl
03-24-2015, 06:42 PM
#3304
Runs with scissors
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03-25-2015, 03:56 AM
#3306
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Left seat of a little plane
Posts: 2,431
What precisely are you referring to. I have flown many a one and two day trip with the same footprint as our FAs, and our 5.15 calendar day average always pays out more than what they get.
03-25-2015, 05:51 AM
#3307
Get's Every Day Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Retired
Posts: 1,860
He's referring to the fact that we have NO minimum day at all, just an average day. Big difference that won't be apparent on a 1 or 2 day trip. Toss in a 30 hr layover and look at the difference.
03-25-2015, 07:52 AM
#3308
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 429
We lead the industry in not one single section of our contract. Not one. This comparison shows that we not only don't lead the industry in vacation, but we're nearly last.
Carl[/QUOTE]
Hmm. I am gonna agree with Carl and I think our negotiators should start every meeting with "We lead the industry in not one single section of the contract. Not one. We are about to fix that." Vaca is an obvious area that needs attention. I'm not concerned with seeing Management's opener. I don't really care. This contract is gonna cost them some $. OFG
Carl[/QUOTE]
Hmm. I am gonna agree with Carl and I think our negotiators should start every meeting with "We lead the industry in not one single section of the contract. Not one. We are about to fix that." Vaca is an obvious area that needs attention. I'm not concerned with seeing Management's opener. I don't really care. This contract is gonna cost them some $. OFG
03-25-2015, 08:51 AM
#3309
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,184
I just don't know why you do this Sailingfun. Jerry's post adds JetBlue and that's what you jump on in multiple subsequent posts while ignoring the complete accuracy of the other airlines he lists.
I'll edit JetBlue out of Jerry's list:
We lead the industry in not one single section of our contract. Not one. This comparison shows that we not only don't lead the industry in vacation, but we're nearly last.
Carl
I'll edit JetBlue out of Jerry's list:
We lead the industry in not one single section of our contract. Not one. This comparison shows that we not only don't lead the industry in vacation, but we're nearly last.
Carl
03-25-2015, 09:38 AM
#3310
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Left seat of a little plane
Posts: 2,431
- VM did not apply to 30 hour layovers (only days in which you actually flew)
- VM did not apply to DH-only duty periods.
- Reserves did not get VM
ALL of the above apply to our ADG. In fact that is one of the greatest improvements I have seen to our contract in the 18+ years I have been here. How guys on this forum dismiss it or take it for granted astounds me.
Further, I have yet to see ANY trip flown anywhere where the F/A pay exceeds ours. On trips with lots of block time (high time turnarounds, international trips) they will often pay the same; in most instances of shorter trips they almost always pay less. They never pay more that I am aware of. If such rare occasions do in fact exist (and I am not sure that they do) then they are greatly outnumbered by the opposite.
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