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03-23-2015, 10:06 AM
#3261
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Why does anybody bid a regular line in a vacation month?
03-23-2015, 10:17 AM
#3262
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03-23-2015, 11:16 AM
#3263
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How do ya figure that? The value of a vacation day has nothing to do with the number of work days in a vacation month, hence my original question. If you guys do not understand the vacation payout and why bidding reserve in a vacation month is a better deal, you really need to read the contract. Not aimed at you Schwanker, but I hear this question a lot. Here's an example: I had only 5 days vacation in a month that the ALV was 80.45. Care to guess what my reserve payout would be and how many X days I had?
03-23-2015, 11:28 AM
#3264
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Some of us live so far away from our 'base' that sitting short call, or even reporting for a next day trip, is about impossible without a jumpseat already booked 7 days in advance. Never mind the hassles of flying the crappiest trips that get sicked out of the most.
If I lived in base, I would probably alternate reserve/regular months, and stack up all my regular line trips in the second half of the month, then bid my on call days in the first half of the next month, so they couldn't use me much, then put in a GS for the X days at the end of the month. I've seen many guys using this alternating mo. strategy getting lots of G/S's.
What we NEED is, up the pay for both Vacation Days and Training Days, to the same as the daily minimum, which I think should be increased from 5:15 to 6:00. That way, flying four 3 day trips would get you at least 72hrs./mo.
If I lived in base, I would probably alternate reserve/regular months, and stack up all my regular line trips in the second half of the month, then bid my on call days in the first half of the next month, so they couldn't use me much, then put in a GS for the X days at the end of the month. I've seen many guys using this alternating mo. strategy getting lots of G/S's.
What we NEED is, up the pay for both Vacation Days and Training Days, to the same as the daily minimum, which I think should be increased from 5:15 to 6:00. That way, flying four 3 day trips would get you at least 72hrs./mo.
03-23-2015, 01:11 PM
#3265
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His numbers are also wrong in several cases or he did not represent them properly. JetBlue as a example gets 180 hours however that is there total for both sick leave and vacation. They use a system like our flight attendants.
On the subject of more money per day verses more guaranteed time off I guess the forum is voting for cash rather then time off. Seems contrary to many past posts. I prefer knowing in advance I have a week off the company can't use me.
On the subject of more money per day verses more guaranteed time off I guess the forum is voting for cash rather then time off. Seems contrary to many past posts. I prefer knowing in advance I have a week off the company can't use me.
03-23-2015, 02:06 PM
#3266
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03-23-2015, 03:13 PM
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His numbers are also wrong in several cases or he did not represent them properly. JetBlue as a example gets 180 hours however that is there total for both sick leave and vacation. They use a system like our flight attendants.
On the subject of more money per day verses more guaranteed time off I guess the forum is voting for cash rather then time off. Seems contrary to many past posts. I prefer knowing in advance I have a week off the company can't use me.
On the subject of more money per day verses more guaranteed time off I guess the forum is voting for cash rather then time off. Seems contrary to many past posts. I prefer knowing in advance I have a week off the company can't use me.
03-23-2015, 03:14 PM
#3268
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How do ya figure that? The value of a vacation day has nothing to do with the number of work days in a vacation month, hence my original question. If you guys do not understand the vacation payout and why bidding reserve in a vacation month is a better deal, you really need to read the contract. Not aimed at you Schwanker, but I hear this question a lot. Here's an example: I had only 5 days vacation in a month that the ALV was 80.45. Care to guess what my reserve payout would be and how many X days I had?
03-23-2015, 03:57 PM
#3269
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Some of us live so far away from our 'base' that sitting short call, or even reporting for a next day trip, is about impossible without a jumpseat already booked 7 days in advance. Never mind the hassles of flying the crappiest trips that get sicked out of the most.
If I lived in base, I would probably alternate reserve/regular months, and stack up all my regular line trips in the second half of the month, then bid my on call days in the first half of the next month, so they couldn't use me much, then put in a GS for the X days at the end of the month. I've seen many guys using this alternating mo. strategy getting lots of G/S's.
What we NEED is, up the pay for both Vacation Days and Training Days, to the same as the daily minimum, which I think should be increased from 5:15 to 6:00. That way, flying four 3 day trips would get you at least 72hrs./mo.
If I lived in base, I would probably alternate reserve/regular months, and stack up all my regular line trips in the second half of the month, then bid my on call days in the first half of the next month, so they couldn't use me much, then put in a GS for the X days at the end of the month. I've seen many guys using this alternating mo. strategy getting lots of G/S's.
What we NEED is, up the pay for both Vacation Days and Training Days, to the same as the daily minimum, which I think should be increased from 5:15 to 6:00. That way, flying four 3 day trips would get you at least 72hrs./mo.
I live farther from my base than you do, and my category has a lot more diverse flying than yours. You have alternatives to get to ATL out the wazoo. Reserve is no big deal. Bidding a regular line in a vacation month is throwing easy money and time off out the window. Work smarter, not harder.
03-23-2015, 04:07 PM
#3270
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If you bid reserve, you get a higher paying month and work a lot less. Yeah you are on the short call hook for some days, but if you are in some of these categories, you are also short staffed, and creative bidding will pay off like a drunk slot machine. (I am not in one of those btw)
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