Details on Delta TA
11-16-2014, 06:47 PM
#2992
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: DAL FO
Posts: 2,169
We will NEVER have an opportunity like this again.
One thing that everyone in DALPA agrees on, the more involved and engaged and fired up the line pilots are, the more powerful the negotiating committee is. The more powerful the MEC is.
We need 100% of the line pilots writing, calling and communicating with each other and management. the message must be clear that $1 billion dollar increases DOS is the minimum for a yes vote. We will not be threatened this time. We do not fear the process. We are not afraid to vote no.
We have some very brave reps taking a stand for us. Taking heat for us. Support them, they are the key to attaining our goals.
Your participation matters so much more than you can imagine. Find the emails of the negotiators and write to let them know you support them. I promise you it makes a difference.
I do it regularly, do you?
What are you doing as an individual to ensure a historic C2015? Take 5 minutes a month to pull the wagon and not just ride in it.
One thing that everyone in DALPA agrees on, the more involved and engaged and fired up the line pilots are, the more powerful the negotiating committee is. The more powerful the MEC is.
We need 100% of the line pilots writing, calling and communicating with each other and management. the message must be clear that $1 billion dollar increases DOS is the minimum for a yes vote. We will not be threatened this time. We do not fear the process. We are not afraid to vote no.
We have some very brave reps taking a stand for us. Taking heat for us. Support them, they are the key to attaining our goals.
Your participation matters so much more than you can imagine. Find the emails of the negotiators and write to let them know you support them. I promise you it makes a difference.
I do it regularly, do you?
What are you doing as an individual to ensure a historic C2015? Take 5 minutes a month to pull the wagon and not just ride in it.
So many guys want the egg without the chicken. For a historic contract you must have unity and show of support for the MEC and NC - it's not going to work the other way around.
11-17-2014, 06:07 AM
#2993
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2007
Posts: 593
We will NEVER have an opportunity like this again.
One thing that everyone in DALPA agrees on, the more involved and engaged and fired up the line pilots are, the more powerful the negotiating committee is. The more powerful the MEC is.
We need 100% of the line pilots writing, calling and communicating with each other and management. the message must be clear that $1 billion dollar increases DOS is the minimum for a yes vote. We will not be threatened this time. We do not fear the process. We are not afraid to vote no.
We have some very brave reps taking a stand for us. Taking heat for us. Support them, they are the key to attaining our goals.
Your participation matters so much more than you can imagine. Find the emails of the negotiators and write to let them know you support them. I promise you it makes a difference.
I do it regularly, do you?
What are you doing as an individual to ensure a historic C2015? Take 5 minutes a month to pull the wagon and not just ride in it.
One thing that everyone in DALPA agrees on, the more involved and engaged and fired up the line pilots are, the more powerful the negotiating committee is. The more powerful the MEC is.
We need 100% of the line pilots writing, calling and communicating with each other and management. the message must be clear that $1 billion dollar increases DOS is the minimum for a yes vote. We will not be threatened this time. We do not fear the process. We are not afraid to vote no.
We have some very brave reps taking a stand for us. Taking heat for us. Support them, they are the key to attaining our goals.
Your participation matters so much more than you can imagine. Find the emails of the negotiators and write to let them know you support them. I promise you it makes a difference.
I do it regularly, do you?
What are you doing as an individual to ensure a historic C2015? Take 5 minutes a month to pull the wagon and not just ride in it.
11-17-2014, 06:13 AM
#2994
Back on TDY
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
Again, nothing to do with unity and pilot participation. We have unity now and about the same level of participation that we always have. Will that matter to this MEC? Who knows. I think the only thing that will matter to this "union" is a serious realization that this group will stand up to the MEC's massive fear campaign and vote down a TA that is not "the best pilot contract in the world."
Carl
11-17-2014, 06:16 AM
#2995
Back on TDY
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
Carl
11-17-2014, 07:06 AM
#2996
ready for mo money
Joined APC: May 2013
Position: Left Behind
Posts: 84
you often make good points, but it seems like youre just as guilty of building your own set of excuses now so you can use your own opinions to prove your own points. it doesnt work like that in the real world, dpa is dead we have to be 100% behind our nc because anything less is a disservice to dal pilots
11-17-2014, 08:05 AM
#2997
Works Every Weekend
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: 737 ATL
Posts: 3,506
DALPA are the only ones still paying attention to them.
The union guys' fear of the DPA is becoming weird.
11-17-2014, 08:27 AM
#2998
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 364
So why not rip them off? Don't give ALPA the excuse of the DPA and tell the company we are one unified voice.
11-17-2014, 08:56 AM
#2999
Otto
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: Turkish Pile Driver
Posts: 1,806
I didn't read all of the preceding 300 pages and am completely new so I really haven't formed an opinion yet. I do have a question though, just how much bargaining power do we have? I think I have a basic understanding of the arguments here, but if the company makes a "good" offer that isn't up to par of what many in here are asking for, won't we just run into the same problem the AA FAs ran into where binding arbitration limits would be significantly lower than what the company is likely to offer before arbitration anyway?
11-17-2014, 09:09 AM
#3000
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
I didn't read all of the preceding 300 pages and am completely new so I really haven't formed an opinion yet. I do have a question though, just how much bargaining power do we have? I think I have a basic understanding of the arguments here, but if the company makes a "good" offer that isn't up to par of what many in here are asking for, won't we just run into the same problem the AA FAs ran into where binding arbitration limits would be significantly lower than what the company is likely to offer before arbitration anyway?
A no vote is as simple as pushing the no button. Not that I am saying vote no at this point.
Our situation is completely different from AA's. They mandated a certain negotiation environment which is completely different than ours.
The issues currently discussed here have as much to do with past history and a survey that steered one to certain responses. This contract needs to restore and exceed contract 2000 in all areas corrected for inflation. This used to be a career. Now it's just a good job.
Can someone post c2k pay tables for the new guys...a contract implemented 14 years ago.
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