Details on Delta TA
11-15-2014, 03:04 AM
#2981
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We will NEVER have an opportunity like this again.
One thing that everyone in DALPA agrees on, the more involved and engaged and fired up the line pilots are, the more powerful the negotiating committee is. The more powerful the MEC is.
We need 100% of the line pilots writing, calling and communicating with each other and management. the message must be clear that $1 billion dollar increases DOS is the minimum for a yes vote. We will not be threatened this time. We do not fear the process. We are not afraid to vote no.
We have some very brave reps taking a stand for us. Taking heat for us. Support them, they are the key to attaining our goals.
Your participation matters so much more than you can imagine. Find the emails of the negotiators and write to let them know you support them. I promise you it makes a difference.
I do it regularly, do you?
What are you doing as an individual to ensure a historic C2015? Take 5 minutes a month to pull the wagon and not just ride in it.
One thing that everyone in DALPA agrees on, the more involved and engaged and fired up the line pilots are, the more powerful the negotiating committee is. The more powerful the MEC is.
We need 100% of the line pilots writing, calling and communicating with each other and management. the message must be clear that $1 billion dollar increases DOS is the minimum for a yes vote. We will not be threatened this time. We do not fear the process. We are not afraid to vote no.
We have some very brave reps taking a stand for us. Taking heat for us. Support them, they are the key to attaining our goals.
Your participation matters so much more than you can imagine. Find the emails of the negotiators and write to let them know you support them. I promise you it makes a difference.
I do it regularly, do you?
What are you doing as an individual to ensure a historic C2015? Take 5 minutes a month to pull the wagon and not just ride in it.
11-15-2014, 03:06 AM
#2982
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Negotiating Committee
[email protected] chairman
[email protected]
[email protected]
Take a moment to email all three and say that you support them 100% in attaining a historic C2015. It is an irrefutable fact that the more support they have, the more power they will have at the table.
After you write them, encourage everyone you fly with to do the same. Carry and share these email addresses. Make it easy for others to do their part.
[email protected] chairman
[email protected]
[email protected]
Take a moment to email all three and say that you support them 100% in attaining a historic C2015. It is an irrefutable fact that the more support they have, the more power they will have at the table.
After you write them, encourage everyone you fly with to do the same. Carry and share these email addresses. Make it easy for others to do their part.
Last edited by gzsg; 11-15-2014 at 03:34 AM.
11-15-2014, 04:37 AM
#2983
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 364
We will NEVER have an opportunity like this again.
One thing that everyone in DALPA agrees on, the more involved and engaged and fired up the line pilots are, the more powerful the negotiating committee is. The more powerful the MEC is.
We need 100% of the line pilots writing, calling and communicating with each other and management. the message must be clear that $1 billion dollar increases DOS is the minimum for a yes vote. We will not be threatened this time. We do not fear the process. We are not afraid to vote no.
We have some very brave reps taking a stand for us. Taking heat for us. Support them, they are the key to attaining our goals.
Your participation matters so much more than you can imagine. Find the emails of the negotiators and write to let them know you support them. I promise you it makes a difference.
I do it regularly, do you?
What are you doing as an individual to ensure a historic C2015? Take 5 minutes a month to pull the wagon and not just ride in it.
One thing that everyone in DALPA agrees on, the more involved and engaged and fired up the line pilots are, the more powerful the negotiating committee is. The more powerful the MEC is.
We need 100% of the line pilots writing, calling and communicating with each other and management. the message must be clear that $1 billion dollar increases DOS is the minimum for a yes vote. We will not be threatened this time. We do not fear the process. We are not afraid to vote no.
We have some very brave reps taking a stand for us. Taking heat for us. Support them, they are the key to attaining our goals.
Your participation matters so much more than you can imagine. Find the emails of the negotiators and write to let them know you support them. I promise you it makes a difference.
I do it regularly, do you?
What are you doing as an individual to ensure a historic C2015? Take 5 minutes a month to pull the wagon and not just ride in it.
I 100% agree. I have started to attend meetings as well as keep in contact with my reps. This very possibly could be the best negotiating environment I will see in my career.
The wild card is DPA. You and I both know that they will not get the cards needed before C2015, if you want unity DPA needs to go away. Either permanently are go on an announced sabbatical to return if C2015 is not historic. With DPA in the picture this is not a unified group in either appearance or reality.
11-15-2014, 05:34 AM
#2984
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,599
I 100% agree. I have started to attend meetings as well as keep in contact with my reps. This very possibly could be the best negotiating environment I will see in my career.
The wild card is DPA. You and I both know that they will not get the cards needed before C2015, if you want unity DPA needs to go away. Either permanently are go on an announced sabbatical to return if C2015 is not historic. With DPA in the picture this is not a unified group in either appearance or reality.
The wild card is DPA. You and I both know that they will not get the cards needed before C2015, if you want unity DPA needs to go away. Either permanently are go on an announced sabbatical to return if C2015 is not historic. With DPA in the picture this is not a unified group in either appearance or reality.
11-16-2014, 12:16 PM
#2985
Straight QOL, homie
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
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So they brought us 4833, ALV+15, reduced profit sharing, sick leave verification, 7 short calls--and the negotiating committee went rogue to finish the "deal." We bailed out the company's 50-seat crisis. ALPA also promised 300 early-outs which never materialized, and stated that we'd never see the "3-3" part of the deal. Don't forget, hiring took a year longer than implied.
To top it off, we were assaulted with a slick marketing campaign featuring multi-media doses of Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. Paid for with our dues money.
Meanwhile, the company is ignoring our JV protections, and the Virgin Atlantic negotiations are...who knows where.
The good news is, "labor risk is off the table" for RA, and "our" "union" president gave a national interview saying we only wanted raises in the "margin" for C2015 because we have a "mature contract." Good times.
Oh, and the survey results were never released.
Last edited by Purple Drank; 11-16-2014 at 12:35 PM.
11-16-2014, 12:28 PM
#2986
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
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Posts: 1,673
and ALPA promised they heard us "loud and clear" before the last contract.
So they brought us 4833, ALV+15, reduced profit sharing, sick leave verification, 7 short calls--and the negotiating committee went rogue to finish the "deal." We bailed out the company's 50-seat crisis. ALPA also promised 300 early-outs which never materialized, and stated that we'd never see the "3-3" part of the deal. Don't forget, hiring took a year longer than implied.
To top it off, we were assaulted with a slick marketing campaign featuring multi-media doses of Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. Paid for by our dues money.
Meanwhile, the company is ignoring our JV protections, and the Virgin Atlantic negotiations are...who knows where.
Oh, and the survey results were never released.
So they brought us 4833, ALV+15, reduced profit sharing, sick leave verification, 7 short calls--and the negotiating committee went rogue to finish the "deal." We bailed out the company's 50-seat crisis. ALPA also promised 300 early-outs which never materialized, and stated that we'd never see the "3-3" part of the deal. Don't forget, hiring took a year longer than implied.
To top it off, we were assaulted with a slick marketing campaign featuring multi-media doses of Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. Paid for by our dues money.
Meanwhile, the company is ignoring our JV protections, and the Virgin Atlantic negotiations are...who knows where.
Oh, and the survey results were never released.
What a buzz killer it was reading that recap. SMH
11-16-2014, 12:32 PM
#2987
Straight QOL, homie
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Posts: 4,202
I added to it since you quoted it. 
Fortunately, our MEC chairman is a strong and inspiring leader, with lots of fire in his belly. He is not worried about being "friends" with Delta executives. He has set some high, clear, definable goals for C2015, and is prepping the battlefield to ensure we get every possible penny and second off.
Oh, wait.
Fortunately, our MEC chairman is a strong and inspiring leader, with lots of fire in his belly. He is not worried about being "friends" with Delta executives. He has set some high, clear, definable goals for C2015, and is prepping the battlefield to ensure we get every possible penny and second off.
Oh, wait.
Last edited by Purple Drank; 11-16-2014 at 12:43 PM.
11-16-2014, 12:48 PM
#2988
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Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
and ALPA promised they heard us "loud and clear" before the last contract.
So they brought us 4833, ALV+15, reduced profit sharing, sick leave verification, 7 short calls--and the negotiating committee went rogue to finish the "deal." We bailed out the company's 50-seat crisis. ALPA also promised 300 early-outs which never materialized, and stated that we'd never see the "3-3" part of the deal. Don't forget, hiring took a year longer than implied.
To top it off, we were assaulted with a slick marketing campaign featuring multi-media doses of Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. Paid for with our dues money.
Meanwhile, the company is ignoring our JV protections, and the Virgin Atlantic negotiations are...who knows where.
The good news is, "labor risk is off the table" for RA, and "our" "union" president gave a national interview saying we only wanted raises in the "margin" for C2015 because we have a "mature contract." Good times.
Oh, and the survey results were never released.
So they brought us 4833, ALV+15, reduced profit sharing, sick leave verification, 7 short calls--and the negotiating committee went rogue to finish the "deal." We bailed out the company's 50-seat crisis. ALPA also promised 300 early-outs which never materialized, and stated that we'd never see the "3-3" part of the deal. Don't forget, hiring took a year longer than implied.
To top it off, we were assaulted with a slick marketing campaign featuring multi-media doses of Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. Paid for with our dues money.
Meanwhile, the company is ignoring our JV protections, and the Virgin Atlantic negotiations are...who knows where.
The good news is, "labor risk is off the table" for RA, and "our" "union" president gave a national interview saying we only wanted raises in the "margin" for C2015 because we have a "mature contract." Good times.
Oh, and the survey results were never released.
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11-16-2014, 01:13 PM
#2989
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,599
I added to it since you quoted it.
Fortunately, our MEC chairman is a strong and inspiring leader, with lots of fire in his belly. He is not worried about being "friends" with Delta executives. He has set some high, clear, definable goals for C2015, and is prepping the battlefield to ensure we get every possible penny and second off.
Oh, wait.
Fortunately, our MEC chairman is a strong and inspiring leader, with lots of fire in his belly. He is not worried about being "friends" with Delta executives. He has set some high, clear, definable goals for C2015, and is prepping the battlefield to ensure we get every possible penny and second off.
Oh, wait.
11-16-2014, 01:19 PM
#2990
Straight QOL, homie
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Posts: 4,202
Is that supposed to be fear, uncertainty, or doubt?
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