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10-06-2014, 04:51 AM
#2671
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What does company gain by forcing pilots to fly some minimum number? If a pilot drops his line via the trade board it's cost neutral, if he drops into open time the company saves the value of the dropped trips. It doesn't make sense that the company would care one way or the other.
As far as I can tell the only reason we are discussing it is because gzsg posted it. He may have made it up, which isn't totally crazy given he didn't bother to mention where his rumors originate.
As far as I can tell the only reason we are discussing it is because gzsg posted it. He may have made it up, which isn't totally crazy given he didn't bother to mention where his rumors originate.
There are two reasons why the company would not like this if it becomes wide spread. The first is if you have a 2 pilots flying half schedules each month the company has to hire a third pilot to cover the flying. They are now paying 3 benefit packages.
The second reason is pilots in this situation are more likely to drop trips during peak flying periods like summer and holidays. This makes staffing more unpredictable and increases premium flying.
So far however none of this has been a issue since it's been very rare.
It might however get more common as the number of over 60 pilots increased.
10-06-2014, 04:54 AM
#2672
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Many of us have a different opinion because we have looked at what has worked and what has not worked over the last 15 years. We also have watched how the NMB has functioned and read their statements.
10-06-2014, 04:56 AM
#2674
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This seems to be the most likely scenario other than gzsg making the whole story up. Even if someone in management decided they want this at some point they would cost it out and figure out it's more or less worthless. Or they would overestimate it's value (unlikely) and try to trade it for something.
Would you trade unlimited drops for a 6 hour min day? That's a pretty unlikely scenario but illustrates how you can generate value from a "concession".
Would you trade unlimited drops for a 6 hour min day? That's a pretty unlikely scenario but illustrates how you can generate value from a "concession".
While on the surface, a 6hr. min day in trades sounds great, and it would work for the domestic trips, most of our 8+ hour International legs won't benefit by a 6hr. min day, but WILL be affected if you have a 30-45+ hour international trip on your 80hr. line and you want to drop it, to pick up something else, or just get some time off.
Beware of what you ask for, you might get it!
Perhaps there should be a different rules for International trips vs. domestic trips, when it comes to min line value, min hrs./day, etc.?
And then there's the whole Green Slip game too...drop all your trips, and only pick up greenslips, double your line value in an understaffed category? Maybe that's what they are really after?
10-06-2014, 04:57 AM
#2675
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This seems to be the most likely scenario other than gzsg making the whole story up. Even if someone in management decided they want this at some point they would cost it out and figure out it's more or less worthless. Or they would overestimate it's value (unlikely) and try to trade it for something.
Would you trade unlimited drops for a 6 hour min day? That's a pretty unlikely scenario but illustrates how you can generate value from a "concession".
Would you trade unlimited drops for a 6 hour min day? That's a pretty unlikely scenario but illustrates how you can generate value from a "concession".
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