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Old 10-02-2014, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Agreed! No matter your opinion on ALPA, every should do it.
Yep! Sent mine in today. There's no excuse to not send a signal to ALPA and the company.
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Yep! Sent mine in today. There's no excuse to not send a signal to ALPA and the company.
And if the answer you are looking for is not listed, be sure to fill out the comment box at the bottom!

I let them know in no uncertain terms, I was not impressed with C2012, and they had better pull their heads out, for C2015.
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Oberon
In 2001 the majority of Delta pilots were hired between 1985 and 2001. In 2014 the majority of Delta pilots were hired between 1985 and 2001. In 2000 Delta's load factor was about 74%, today Delta's load factor is about 84%.

I have about 500 people below me right now. A lot of Delta pilots are scheduled to retire soon and continuously for the next ten years. There is not much, if any, efficiency to be gained by putting more people in airplanes. In order for me to be furloughed Delta would have to shrink significantly, which would probably be due to a worldwide depression, or drones will have to be certified. There is absolutely nothing we could do in C2015 that would affect either of those possibilities.
Delta South had 10,400 pilots on the list on 9-11-2001.

At the time of the merger with NW, DL south had about 7,300.

That's a loss of 3,100 pilot jobs.

You are smoking crack if you think it can't happen again.
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Free Bird
It is now easy to see that the company can afford to pay us significantly more than 4,8,3,3 on this next contract. The only question is can and will we force them to do so?
Fixed it for ya...
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Money in my accounts and in my name can in absolutely no way be construed as a paycut. It might not be liquid, but it sure ain't a paycut
That's not what I read Timbo to be saying. I read him as saying simply that the 20% used to come from the company's pocket and now comes from ours. As it no longer comes from the company, it is another 20% that we're not receiving.
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Delta South had 10,400 pilots on the list on 9-11-2001.

At the time of the merger with NW, DL south had about 7,300.

That's a loss of 3,100 pilot jobs.

You are smoking crack if you think it can't happen again.
I was in the first class post 2001, and my initial seniority was 6822. TK (the last guy hired in 2001) was 6818. That's a big drop from 10,400.
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
The negotiating environment today is much better than it was in 2001...
In what ways? I see it as being better in some ways (e.g., business model for sustained profitability), but not as good in others (e.g., industry comparison).
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
That's not what I read Timbo to be saying. I read him as saying simply that the 20% used to come from the company's pocket and now comes from ours. As it no longer comes from the company, it is another 20% that we're not receiving.
EXACTLY!

And thanks for saying that in much fewer words than I could ever manage!
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Old 10-02-2014, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I was in the first class post 2001, and my initial seniority was 6822. TK (the last guy hired in 2001) was 6818. That's a big drop from 10,400.

Wow, I didn't realize we had gotten down to so few!

Oberon, you listening?

(I actually met TK once, and his predecessor, JP McL! who was the bottom guy from the 1993 furlough)
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Old 10-02-2014, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I said I have not referred to you as an "operative". I said I don't even know what that means. You call me a liar and "prove" it by quoting a number of my posts...in which none do I accuse you of being an "operative".

Yikes.

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Did someone hack your account?
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