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09-25-2014, 03:51 PM

#2361

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by orvil

My question for you is how long did it take you to build such robust bank (2,200 hours)? If we started this right now, are they going to place a lump sum in an account for the over 50 age group pilots? Or, are we starting with 60 hours?

I don't remember how many years it took. We had a rapid accrual clause that quickly brought you back up to your previous level when you called in sick. I just called in sick anytime I was sick, and that was my balance at one point.

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Originally Posted by orvil

Second point, if we go into bankruptcy again, is there anything to stop the Company from cancelling your 2,200 hour bank? My guess is the judge will sign that little account away in a heartbeat.

That didn't happen during the NWA bankruptcy. That is a point I hadn't considered though.

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Originally Posted by orvil

Because of this, I think that you are wrong about using your sick leave as short term or long term disability plan. DALPA spent a considerable amount of negotiating capital in the bankruptcy process to protect and secure the D&S plan from corporate raiding.

We kept ours too and I actually don't even think it was threatened.

Carl

09-25-2014, 03:54 PM

#2362

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by Hillbilly

Nah. I did it in my head.

OK then. That's some pretty good cipherin and gazinder-in.

Carl

09-25-2014, 04:00 PM

#2363

scambo1

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

We'll never get to the 3% raises on C2012 because something else big is coming.

Don't you remember?

Good point, I almost forgot about that.

09-25-2014, 04:11 PM

#2364

Timbo

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

We'll never get to the 3% raises on C2012 because something else big is coming.

Don't you remember?

That's right! I almost forgot!

Now, I just hope someone from Alaska can train me on how to fly into...

Juno!

09-25-2014, 04:15 PM

#2365

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore

For example, when Delta pays for a pilot's hotel when he is training at his base?

You're really reaching now Lee...I mean Alan.

If the ATL based pilot is a commuter, then yes it should be considered as income because the pilot is choosing to live out of the training base, just as Lee is choosing to live outside of his work base. If this were pushed by someone at the IRS, it would be considered income.

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Originally Posted by Alan Shore

Or when NWA used to provide positive space travel for commuting instructors to NATCO and give them hotels during stretches of sim periods?

If memory serves, this issue was starting to arise right when NATCO was closing. There was real concern about having it considered income. Might be why Delta has stopped that practice.

Your structure still looks bad Alan. In fact...nobody move. Don't even breath.

Carl

09-25-2014, 04:19 PM

#2366

tsquare

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All hail Carl!

He knows everything.

09-25-2014, 04:22 PM

#2367

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

We'll never get to the 3% raises on C2012 because something else big is coming.

Don't you remember?

I do remember that. I also remember the usual suspects here saying that we shouldn't worry too much about those last two 3% raises because we'll be back at the table well before then and we'll get another bite at the pay apple.

Don't know about you, but that apple looks unscathed.

Carl

09-25-2014, 04:30 PM

#2368

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by tsquare

All hail Carl!

He knows everything.

See there tsquare...was that so hard?

Carl

09-25-2014, 04:35 PM

#2369

Carl Spackler

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Got this photo of Timbo when he was the ring bearer at a wedding.

Some guys just got it no matter what they do.

Carl

09-25-2014, 05:17 PM

#2370

Oberon

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Let me summarize all this above. I'm not stating what "group" you're part of. You're the one doing that. I'm talking about you as an individual. As an individual, your posts are designed to ensure pilot costs are minimized. Period. You're clearly being managed by someone within DALPA or management (not that there's a difference) to post on web forums to ensure the message of minimizing pilot costs to Delta. The person who is managing you is absolutely doing the bidding of a Ford and Harrison union buster.

Hope this helps.

Carl

You made up every bit this. 100% fabrication.

I speak for myself. I have no contact with nor am not managed by anyone from DALPA, Delta management, Ford & Harrison, or any other person or organization.

I have a deal for you. Hire a personal detective. I'll give you my name, address, phone number, whatever the PD needs. Send him to my house and I'll talk to him. Have him do whatever it is that PDs do. If he finds any evidence that I am being managed by DALPA, Delta, Ford & Harrison, or any other person or organization I'll pay for the PD. Hire a lawyer to draw up a contract o make the deal formal. If your guy finds evidence I'll pay for the lawyer too.