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08-29-2014, 06:54 AM
#1092
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 51
Dude..... I appreciate your opinion on many subjects but if you want people to consider your thoughts on C2015, you need to supply actual data not hearsay and emotional commentary.
08-29-2014, 06:59 AM
#1094
No longer cares
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
In my experience this is absolutely not the case. I have always napped when returning from these things and I think for the most part everyone else does too. "Most pilots do not sleep during the day"....absolutely no data indicates what you claim or what I claim also.
Dude..... I appreciate your opinion on many subjects but if you want people to consider your thoughts on C2015 you need to apply actual data, not hearsay and emotional commentary.
Dude..... I appreciate your opinion on many subjects but if you want people to consider your thoughts on C2015 you need to apply actual data, not hearsay and emotional commentary.
08-29-2014, 07:10 AM
#1095
At home on the maddog!
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: ATL MD-88A
Posts: 2,874
In my experience this is absolutely not the case. I have always napped when returning from these things and I think for the most part everyone else does too. "Most pilots do not sleep during the day"....absolutely no data indicates what you claim or what I claim either.
Dude..... I appreciate your opinion on many subjects but if you want people to consider your thoughts on C2015, you need to supply actual data not hearsay and emotional commentary.
Dude..... I appreciate your opinion on many subjects but if you want people to consider your thoughts on C2015, you need to supply actual data not hearsay and emotional commentary.
08-29-2014, 07:19 AM
#1096
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 51
08-29-2014, 07:32 AM
#1098
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 757/767
Posts: 588
That's a flat out lie. I didn't make anything up. Never said I made anything up. I stated what I have observed over the course of many years with my own two eyes and ears. I also stated what I observed when I flew a few CDO's back in the day. Just about everybody who is familiar and/or has firsthand experience with CDO's knows that most pilots do not sleep during the day and that they plan on getting their sleep during the break between flights at the hotel on the CDO. Just because there's not some study or statistic to support it, doesn't mean it's not a fact.
You can disagree with me all you want. We can debate this ad nauseum. But I will not tolerate you lying about what I have said.
You can disagree with me all you want. We can debate this ad nauseum. But I will not tolerate you lying about what I have said.
I invite anyone who flies CDOs and doesn't sleep during the day to post in support of your assertion. It's an anonymous service. Surely someone can add some evidence that "most pilots do not sleep during the day".
08-29-2014, 07:40 AM
#1099
Straight QOL, homie
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Posts: 4,202
lived what? CDOs? nope. never had to do them won't do them. Don't need to try them to know they're a bad idea for me. I won't let my family non-rev on CDO return legs.
have I done transoceanic flying? yep. lots of it. completely different animal for all of the reasons listed above. not sure how it's relevant, but thanks for asking.
have I done transoceanic flying? yep. lots of it. completely different animal for all of the reasons listed above. not sure how it's relevant, but thanks for asking.
08-29-2014, 07:51 AM
#1100
No longer cares
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
Apples and oranges. A 2 hour flight followed by 4 hours behind the door, followed by another 2 hour flight completely on the backside of the clock is different. A Europe trip has you landing at 3am or so body clock. That is vastly different than landing at 6am. A better analogy would be the allnighters from the west coast which I have also stated are extremely undesirable... You wanna look 70 when you are 55?
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