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10-28-2016, 07:55 AM
#7961
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Actually, the way the question was phrased was if someone currently under a seat lock could take advantage of the shorter seat locks for certain (shorter curricula) training courses--but it applies either way.
To generalize the answer, the only things that are retroactive are pay (to 1 Jan 16) and the SL look back (to 1 Jun 15) for the 50 hours / year usage for future verification requirements (*not* the 100 hours / year for current year--that will start DOS).
10-28-2016, 08:35 AM
#7962
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10-28-2016, 08:35 AM
#7963
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Asked & answered at the ATL Roadshow yesterday: No.
Actually, the way the question was phrased was if someone currently under a seat lock could take advantage of the shorter seat locks for certain (shorter curricula) training courses--but it applies either way.
To generalize the answer, the only things that are retroactive are pay (to 1 Jan 16) and the SL look back (to 1 Jun 15) for the 50 hours / year usage for future verification requirements (*not* the 100 hours / year for current year--that will start DOS).
Actually, the way the question was phrased was if someone currently under a seat lock could take advantage of the shorter seat locks for certain (shorter curricula) training courses--but it applies either way.
To generalize the answer, the only things that are retroactive are pay (to 1 Jan 16) and the SL look back (to 1 Jun 15) for the 50 hours / year usage for future verification requirements (*not* the 100 hours / year for current year--that will start DOS).
10-28-2016, 08:49 AM
#7964
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That would be really dumb of them not to zero out all the sick metrics. If someone had already used > 50 and the company tries to count that to screw them out of the perk for that, then they now have no incentive which was the whole purpose of that in the first place. 
10-28-2016, 10:16 AM
#7965
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Getting the 50 hour lookback retro is to our benefit not the company. Some pilots will now not need to verify anything for a year.
10-28-2016, 11:48 AM
#7966
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Quite sure, it was discussed in detail.
There's no look back in the sense of "How much have you used this year, and does that mean you have to verify?"
The "free pass" on that verification--i.e., "Did you use less than 50 hours each of the past two years?"-- does look back, so that on 1 Jun 17 (the start of our first full sick year under the new contract provisions) & forward, the 50/year/last 2 years does apply. I agree with Sailing, that's to our benefit.
Only caveat, this is how it was discussed at the roadshow. If actual contract language implementation differs, that will a different discussion.
There's no look back in the sense of "How much have you used this year, and does that mean you have to verify?"
The "free pass" on that verification--i.e., "Did you use less than 50 hours each of the past two years?"-- does look back, so that on 1 Jun 17 (the start of our first full sick year under the new contract provisions) & forward, the 50/year/last 2 years does apply. I agree with Sailing, that's to our benefit.
Only caveat, this is how it was discussed at the roadshow. If actual contract language implementation differs, that will a different discussion.
10-29-2016, 08:16 AM
#7967
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Yeah but the flip side of that is if someone is over the 50 already in that timeframe, they now have no incentive not to go to at least the 100/160. Unintended consequences and all that.
10-29-2016, 10:45 AM
#7969
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10-29-2016, 02:01 PM
#7970
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