tom14cat14

I didn't mean to make it sound like I am complaining about the SSP. I am just pointing out that it worked out like management wanted. At least partially. People who most likely would have a chance to go to one of the other majors are pulling their app and waiting for DAL. I am in that boat, I am a Sim instructor and have some pretty good ins with a few companies. But I want DAL so I am willing to wait. Maybe I am not making the right choice by waiting but having a chance to be home Based eventually at DAL is worth more to me then higher seniority but always commuting elsewhere.

I am just pointing out how even with the amount of pilots being hired, there are a lot of qualified guys waiting in line here which is helping with staffing.

ColdUpHere

Different way of looking at it I suppose.

If you want to look at it from a money perspective, there are folks in their late 20s I got hired with who will make much more money than I did over those same years and also more than someone their age who serves in the military til they retire and then come to a major airline.

I was looking at it from the timing perspective and pointing out that folks from both regional airlines and the military are put in the timing situations of their respective organizations.

bentwookie

This infographic shows the breakdown of flowthrough/OTS for all of 2014. I haven't been able to find one for 2015.

http://imgur.com/wCitUra

JamesBond

What constitutes a concession is in the eye of the beholder.

Tanker1497

Agreed Tsquare...guess you were on the wrong side of the beholders for TA15?

Vincent Chase

...Or is it Bender?

gloopy

JMHO but with how the industry is going right now, if I were you I'd bail ASAP to the first major that actually took you. Then, if you still want it, do a lateral. Majors get off on hiring pilots from other majors. Always have always will. And if you don't get it, you'll be at a far better place than any regional, and with more seniority to boot.

I'm glad Endeavor is finally getting its act together operationally and I'd like to see a successful (but ever shrinking) "go-to" regional because DL has pee'd in the wind for decades with poor regional decisions. Build them up, whipsaw them, nuke them down, create a crisis because of it, lather, rinse, repeat. Pathetic MBA nonsense that has cost the corporation many, many, many billions of dollars and directly funded their competition while doing it.

I'd like to see a strong Endeavor contract, as opposed to the band-aid ""temporary" retention bonus nonsense, and a pathway to DL would be awesome (although it would need to come with a flow down IMO but that's another discussion).

Absolutely go for DL, but in the meantime, if you can get to AA/UA/FX/UPS first I'd say run don't walk.

Tanker1497

Hard to keep track!

ShyGuy

It matters because Delta has hired ~900+ pilots/year for 2014-present. Isn't the most junior CA a 03/2015 hire? It's crazy someone from Jan '15 interview and CJOed still doesn't have a class. She'd have been a Delta CA already.

So what's holding the SSP FOs back? Do they have to wait until every potential CA applicant has interviewed?

MikeF16

Could have been...

To the OP on this subject

Free country and people have a choice, but holding out for your favorite is a risky game. Go get hired by somebody else and if DAL calls with a class date then you've got an enviable choice on your hands.

If your argument is something to the effect of 'well, not everybody has 3 airlines calling for an interview' then perhaps the only reason you even got the interview was because of SSP, and you've got no standing to complain since your resume isn't quite yet competitive. ALPA isn't at the top of my xmas card list, but I don't see them as the bad guy in your situation. To me it sounds like they gave you an opportunity that you otherwise wouldn't have had. If you're just venting I get it. If you really think you've been wronged then I think you should reassess.