JamesBond

What will your seniority date be?

gloopy

I don't think that's the end all metric for how the SSP has worked. How many pilots have gotten interviews and class dates? What percentage are from Endeavor compared to any other airline?

Look, regionals suck. And the pilots there work hard. But the Endeavor pilots have benefited greatly from the SSP. Trying to paint it an injustice that the movement hasn't been even quicker isn't going to hold much water IMO.

Sturbmaster

I'll answer for him since I'm in the same boat except a Sept SSP hire. Our seniority date/date of hire is when we show up for class. Best case scenario for me is a 21 month wait between CJO and class date. Thanks ALPA...

MikeF16

That's a raw deal. In my class the Endeavor guys who were held back got seniority numbers commensurate with the class they would have been eligible for had they not been held. Did the agreement change?

ImissXJ

Are you a captain? How long did you wait to interview from when you first had the opportunity?

ImissXJ

SSP guys never have gotten seniority numbers.

tunes

I'm guessing you are talking about the compass guys that were all on a 90 day hold back.


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JamesBond

So you are coming here hating the union already and have never stepped foot on the property? Really? I don't get it. Why come here at all?

WhiskeyDelta

Give him a break. He's venting. Would you want to wait 21 months at our current hiring rate? That's roughly 2000+ number loss in seniority.

Despite the historic market for pilots, not everyone has job offers from the other legacies and majors. ALPA did negotiate this for Endeavor so he is certainly within his right to point his frustration at them. Despite that I would give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's still grateful to come to Delta until he publicly states otherwise.


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404yxl

That's the agreement the pilots at Endeavor agreed to. If they didn't like it they should have said no. If he wants to go earlier, apply off the street. It maybe tougher, but there are plenty of off the street pilots passing interviews and there have been plenty of former Endeavor pilots who went to Compass and have already started at Delta through their own interview at Delta.

The reason he may wait 21 months, is because a ton more senior pilots at Endeavor are going before him. He doesn't get to leap frog them. If it was a flow like Compass, he may have to wait even longer since all of the senior pilots above him would get a crack to go before. Do you think the most junior flow pilots at Compass were upset because they left 5 years after the first group got to go? No, it was in seniority per the agreement they signed onto.