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Old 04-01-2016, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
I disagree. I thought the transition felt a lot like a B-course. 3-4 hours of studying a night, including chair flying, an hour in the FTD working flows (100 and 200 blocks), and writing the memory items to drill them in like bold face items. IMO, "gentleman's course" = spoon feeding. I was not spoon fed anything. I was also a one-man class with no sim partner, so that may have been a factor in the perceived intensity, but just about everyone I know who's been through Delta training in the last 2 years has had an experience similar to mine. I doubt any of them would describe the experience as a gentleman's course.

I do agree that having a good attitude and applying what the instructors teach will help, but that's not enough to get you through training.

I know, Delta loves tools like me. And no, there's no DG program. But during that first push of OE, it felt like I brain dumped everything I learned in training. I was happy I had enough muscle memory to not look entirely incapable.
I guess I should edit my post. I did study flows pretty hard for the 100-200 series. With that said I didn't study more then 15 mins a night in the 300-400 series. I am by no means chuck Yeager but I didn't think sims where too tough. From what I have gathered it is pretty much impossible to washout with a good attitude. That is pretty gentlemanly to me!

Now day one IOE.....sweet baby Jesus. I don't care who you are, if you have never flown 121, that day sucks. On leg 3 of that day the LCA asked me if I was "having a good time". In a sweaty mess, I shot him a look and told him I thought I had made the wrong career decision. I haven't felt so lost since UPT. I have much respect for the guys who have been single seat their entire career. Learning all the airline stuff and your place in a multi-crew cockpit has to be a lot.

Delta will get you through it, even if it requires extra training. I know a guy that went the full IOE (75 hours I think) and even went back to the sim for extra training. He is happily flying the line off probation now. He was positive the entire time and that's what got him through. Take that for what its worth.
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Old 04-01-2016, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Twister
Thanks, Tee! I must say I've been very impressed with how quickly those in the know have been to help all of us poolies. It definitely has helped me feel that Delta means it when they talk about being a family.

(And to everyone else out there on this forum, I apologize if I hogged this thread for days on end! Hope to see all of you somewhere down the line.)
I was paired with a part 91 guy as an all mil guy. Although neither one of us had any 121 experience, all was just fine. As has been said, the instructors do a fine job knowing what you need. However, it was said over and over that it's your program, so if you need something, you need to ask for it if you're not getting it. Attitude is everything, study what they tell you to.
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Old 04-01-2016, 01:43 PM
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Delta training was the easiest training of my career. Including regionals, Air Force and flying ACMI cargo company. So easy I wondered if I was missing something bc the expectations were so low! I still study my butt of before cq and leave thinking why did I study so hard! Definitely a gentlemens programs.
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Old 04-01-2016, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Paok
Delta training was the easiest training of my career. Including regionals, Air Force and flying ACMI cargo company. So easy I wondered if I was missing something bc the expectations were so low! I still study my butt of before cq and leave thinking why did I study so hard! Definitely a gentlemens programs.
Ha! Copy... AF, regionals, ACMI, then Delta. One big ball walk.

OP: good luck, man. You'll be fine, no matter which approach to training you take. My understanding is that only a handful of guys have washed out-all for a poor attitude.

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Old 04-01-2016, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Ha! Copy... AF, regionals, ACMI, then Delta. One big ball walk.

OP: good luck, man. You'll be fine, no matter which approach to training you take. My understanding is that only a handful of guys have washed out-all for a poor attitude.

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Except the order I did it was regionals, Air Force, ACMI, Delta 👍😄 and Delta training was the best and easiest!
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Old 04-02-2016, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
My understanding is that only a handful of guys have washed out-all for a poor attitude.
My MV check airman said exactly this. Have a good attitude and you will get through.
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Old 04-02-2016, 07:31 AM
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Concerned commuters, it took us approximately three weeks from indoc start to be entered into CASS. I know it was reported on here before that it "may" not happen until IOE. Not as fast as it could to be, but quicker than feared. It was a problem for me because I have to commute a leg on an OAL or drive a significant distance to use positive space. YMMV as larger classes may back things up. It happens when you convert from being a new hire to your actual equipment, which I believe usually only happens on the 1st or the 15th of the month.
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Old 04-04-2016, 05:21 AM
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What's the drop??!!
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Old 04-04-2016, 06:16 AM
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what's the drop??!!
88 atl 9
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Old 04-04-2016, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TexanDriver
88 atl 9
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Good deal to see a lot of ATL slots again. Welcome!
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