Twister

Within just a few days of your CJO.

Peoloto

Get familiar with the term LOD, learning objectives document. Know that cold for systems, about 50-150 pages depending on fleet.

hvydvr

I have three letters for a response. L O D. It's like an MQF for you AF types. Read that once a day and you will crush your systems validation. They want you to succeed here.

palooza

To add, do the cbt's to get familiar, but spend the bulk of your time on the LOD. You'll get a couple days when you get to training for LOD/systems review and questions.

With respect to af training, I felt DAL was extremely similar to the layout, but without the extra time for going to Charlie's and playing golf 4 days a week (ref: Altus). If you do what you did to succeed in mil training you'll be fine here. For each sim, study like you did for mil formal training and then listen listen listen during the event. Study what they tell you to study after each event, because that is what they are telling you you need to work on.

In general, systems knowledge is nowhere near AF levels, and they know that. They trimmed the program to save money and expect you to get the important things for training and fine tune and keep learning as you go. You don't end up leaving Atl feeling overly confident, but you're at least natops qual level. Good luck, have fun, and don't sweat too much now.

tweetfaip

One variable is how long you have between the end of indoc and the start of sim training. If it is one week you will be cramming a good bit. That said, like others have pointed out, we have an equivalent to the MQF - the LOD. When you come back you should know those, but you will have a small amount of time to get some help before you take the electronic systems test. Then you move on through flight training devices (mostly functioning cockpit models), cockpit procedures trainers (sims without vis or motion), then maneuvers training in the full up sim, followed by putting it all together and flying simulated trips in the sim. Take your checkride and off to the line.

Keep in mind that we have only had a handful of training failures in the past few years and as far as I am aware none of them were due to an inability to learn or fly the jet. You will be fine if you stay focused.

JackRanch

Thanks Grant...its all coming together now.

Saw the reply on the 320...anyone have appx wait for 73, 88, and 717?

JackRanch

MURfE!!! Welcome...

HP

captkdobbs

Another note on the level of systems knowledge DAL expects you to have:

Gone are the days of being able to build the airplane from rivet #1 through the final fuel line and electrical connections. They expect you to continually increase your systems knowledge while on line, though, as a function of being a proficient, professional pilot.

They don't expect you to diagram the fuel, electrical and hydraulic systems during your training/checkride. If you study the LOD (as stated above) and the cbt (computer based training) you will have a good 'operational knowledge' to pass your systems validation and enter the sim.

From there, the training focuses on the ideas of 'what's going on with my ship' and, if it's non-normal, where do I go to deal with that abnormality. Along the way, you are taught how DAL flies the airplane and all the SOPs that go along with line flying. tweetfaip said it well in the summary of 'putting it all together' in the sim.

Twister

Peoloto, hvydvr, Palooza, tweetfaip, Captkdobbs....thanks, guys!!

That is absolutely the kind of intel I needed to succeed! Been out of the cockpit for 9 months and was a little concerned about how much work it's going to take to get through qual training. Thx!

Tee1Up

FWIW, there were zero vacancies on the 7ERB in SEA on the last AE, but 13 FO's moved into the position. So they certainly back-filled that position. I'm not sure if that's what you were referring to. Many that bid that position had no chance of holding it and suddenly got it. So, miracles happen. Glad to be moving to the west coast!