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Old 03-16-2016, 06:56 PM
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Default Spreadsheet update, Mar 16th

Looks like the pool is draining rapidly. Most of 2015 hires will be on property soon. I will keep it going, but mostly only with class drops as I don't get mucn info on hiring classes any more. Same thing happened in 2014 when the pool emptied by Christmas. It will be great to have all of you on property. Thanks for giving me the intel.

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Old 03-16-2016, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
i don't think those really matter, they always under and over fill vacancies on the AE
2 thoughts:

1st, Delta has to have a plan to start somewhere. Even something set in jello has some thought to it.

2nd, I defer to someone who's not a poolie (Surd) and has been watching this sort of thing a few years. Yes, he admits it can change but it still gives me some confidence for the future.
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Old 03-17-2016, 04:13 AM
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Crew resources has stated in the past that they can under fill vacancies (remember when they posted 744 slots that they never filled due to aircraft changes after the AE came out), but they can't fill more than posted (and backfill).

It's a fairly good gauge to look at open spots after an AE IMO. They'll still probably send the most folks to the more junior positions, but it gives you an idea where they need bodies. The NYC narrow bodies are revolving doors of the system so they always have a ton of spots posted (more than they really probably need).
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Old 03-17-2016, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
Crew resources has stated in the past that they can under fill vacancies (remember when they posted 744 slots that they never filled due to aircraft changes after the AE came out), but they can't fill more than posted (and backfill).

It's a fairly good gauge to look at open spots after an AE IMO. They'll still probably send the most folks to the more junior positions, but it gives you an idea where they need bodies. The NYC narrow bodies are revolving doors of the system so they always have a ton of spots posted (more than they really probably need).
The verbiage from the PWA explains why Crew Resources sets the AE numbers so as to end up with unfilled slots. All pilots on property must have the opportunity to bid on an available position. If there are leftover (unfilled) positions on an AE, the company can verify that all pilots had that opportunity, and then fill the slots the way they choose (i.e. keep the training pipeline flowing).
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If no pilot bids on a First Officer category vacancy, the Company may assign an entry level pilot to fill the vacancy.
a. Such pilot will be selected among the pilots in the most recent new hire class. If no entry level pilot is available, such pilot will be selected from the subsequent new hire class.
b. The vacancy will be proffered to entry level pilots in seniority order. If no pilot accepts the proffer, the selection will be made by assignment in inverse seniority order.

“Entry level pilot” means a pilot who has not completed his initial OE at the Company.
'b.' describes the indoc drop/bid process. In theory, a pilot sitting in class could 'pass' on his/her opportunity to select position (not accept the proffer), at which point the assignment would be made in inverse seniority order. (I wonder if this has ever happened. ??)

I think 'a.' allows the company to reassign a pilot to a different category before they complete IOE. i.e. hiring stops and the company decides to reassign the bottom several pilots to a different category to fill a shortage. (I can't imagine this clause would be exercised as long as hiring continues, but every clause in a contract is there because a situation in the past needed to be covered)
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Old 03-17-2016, 09:37 AM
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Have there been some No-Shows in new hire classes?
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Old 03-17-2016, 10:22 AM
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Default April 11 Indoc Anyone?

Has anyone received invites to an April 11 Indoc? If so, what CJO's?
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Old 03-17-2016, 10:33 AM
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We had one 7 Oct CJO make it into 4 Apr indoc. The rest of us 7 Oct CJOs are standing by for 11 Apr. Will post here when we see the email.
Perhaps Sunday?
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Old 03-17-2016, 06:16 PM
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How much time do we have between Indoc and Sims? I have read that it varies from one to four weeks. What determines the length of that time. I am trying to figure out how to work in some family time and a part time job I have.

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Old 03-17-2016, 06:18 PM
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Latest class is between 8 and 15ish days.

Also fwiw the Mar 7 class was able to bid on the AE and several got LA, DTW and SLC as the most jr folks in the company.


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Old 03-17-2016, 07:25 PM
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When is the next AE?


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