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Old 02-22-2016, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BuckF15
The ER was doing some initial sim training in Miami last summer. Not sure if still happening since they had slowed ERs being in initial drops recently due to a pretty severe training backlog and reduced winter flying schedule. They might start showing back up in drops as the summer nears like they did last year.
here's to an abundance of ER's mid-march
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by NoDeskJob
Guys who just started training (or anyone possibly in the know); Any update on the Australia rumor for 717 training?
Yes -- it's not just a rumor.

Doesn't mean it will happen, but people have already went to BNE and tried out the sim.
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Old 02-22-2016, 11:15 AM
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If the ER shows up again would that be a wise bid? Everything I've heard and also seen (August projections) have shown a decrease in staffing levels. What happens when the winter season slows down again, can you get displaced or do you just stay on reserve?

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Old 02-22-2016, 11:56 AM
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Are we allowed to non-rev home for the weekend after the first week of indoc?
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Old 02-22-2016, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LowCountryPilot
Are we allowed to non-rev home for the weekend after the first week of indoc?
Yes. I think when ever you have 48 hours off you can go home.
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Old 02-22-2016, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudPilot57
If the ER shows up again would that be a wise bid? Everything I've heard and also seen (August projections) have shown a decrease in staffing levels. What happens when the winter season slows down again, can you get displaced or do you just stay on reserve?
It depends. I was in indoc last Mar and the rumor was the ER was being phased out so many ran from it. I knew I wanted the variety in flying and liked the jet so I picked it. A year later I have no regrets. In a few years I might...who knows? In my 6 months flying after OE/TOE, I have held a line twice. I live in base so reserve doesn't bother me. I believe the last road show announced they bought a few more 757s and were also pulling some from the boneyard and would have 15-20 more flying this summer than last. Winter flying slowed down and I sat for 3 weeks at home and barely flew in Jan. Still got paid the reserve amount and had some great family time. I guess I could get displaced, but I haven't even remotely had to worry about that yet.

Bottom line: do your homework and decide based on your situation. I chose aircraft and base and have no regrets. I gave up some seniority for that, but not as much as some would think. I love my situation now and will only know if I made the right decision when I retire. Good luck!
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Old 02-22-2016, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LowCountryPilot
Are we allowed to non-rev home for the weekend after the first week of indoc?
You get to travel Positive Space to your home. Great deal. Just be sure to go home and not to Vegas (unless that is your home). I only mention it because it has been done...
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Old 02-22-2016, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Seriously? You even mention in your post that everything is relative but then proceed to disregard it.

When a 2000 hire who moved forward for less than two years, then backward for two years, then furloughed, then "stagnant" for the next five finds it amusing that guys who don't advance in three or four months consider it stagnation feel free to consider the "relativeness" of the situation.

Just so I have it correct - The guys who point out that four months with no advancement are the "crybabies?" IMHO part of the information flow from some of the more senior Pilots is pointing out that four months with no advancement is to be expected, is not a big deal, and will happen quite frequently in this career.

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Scoop,

I appreciate this type of response, but I believe that either I did not adequately explain what I meant or you misunderstood what I wrote.

1. Nobody would claim that relatively slower movement in specific airframes in today's environment can touch the industry-wide stagnation experienced over the previous 15 years.

2. When people in this forum use the word stagnation, it's just the easiest way to compare one category to another. Nobody is comparing it to being furloughed, displaced, being stuck on a plane, domicile, or company that they didn't want to be at/on for years on-end.

3. When I am calling those people babies, it's not because they don't have legitimate grievances with the way their careers panned out, only at their hijacking of the word "stagnant". It's just a word, for a group of professional who so often claim to have such thick skin it boggles my mind the way others lose theirs over this one word.

4. Just because somebody wasn't at an airline doesn't mean they have no perspective or weren't affected by the lost decade. Somehow ~2000 hires seem to think they're the only ones whose master plan for life didn't turn out exactly as they wanted.

Hopefully this clears up my stance. Maybe it's what you thought it was all along, hopefully not.
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Old 02-22-2016, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LowCountryPilot
Are we allowed to non-rev home for the weekend after the first week of indoc?
Yes, as others have already answered.

I'd recommend you also consider the timing of the Welcome Dinner (your spouse, if applicable, is invited as well, and provided r/t transportation). In my case, the dinner was Monday evening. My wife came down Fri night and went back Tue morning; we used the weekend to explore the local area. With indoc only lasting nine days, you'll be home by the following Thursday until your training starts, anyway. You may, of course, have a compelling reason to get home for that weekend, in which case, take advantage of the PS!* Otherwise, your best bang for the buck may be to stay put for that particular weekend....

*Hint: you can book your PS travel as soon as you get DLNet access on Day 1. I recommend doing so--both for your trip home at the end of indoc, and that middle weekend should you decide to go home. Then, when you get your training schedule, book your seats for every 2+ day break you have, whether or not you intend to go home (simple to cancel; harder to add a seat on some markets at the last minute).
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