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Old 01-18-2016, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Not trying to beat a drum - I just want to make sure prospective applicants don't count on being able to get your app restored within 12 months.

When I was at Indoc almost a year ago, Capt O.C. Miller, the Managing Director of Flying Ops (and AK's boss) was asked this exact question. He was very specific in stating that they will only score an applicant's app once every 12 months - regardless of additional internal recs. He said that some apps may slip through the crack more often, but that Delta's policy is to wait 12 months before a rescore.

Additionally, Post 5515 in this thread back in November, mountainmojo confirmed the same policy is still in effect.

Believe it, or don't believe it, just don't count on getting your app scored again within 12 months. Maybe you'll get lucky, I hope you do. Just plan accordingly.

Good Luck!
Obviously, the communication is not uniform (Capt. Miller vs. DeltaNet). If either of us was a senior Delta pilot with little to no understanding of the current hiring practices and we solely referenced what was on DeltaNet then, based on your intel, he/she would be unintentionally misleading candidates. My indoc class over a year ago also had Capt. Miller and gave a briefing along the lines of what I've been sharing. So, it appears the policy has changed. The more recs someone gets, IMO, there should be more opportunities to get scored.
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Old 01-18-2016, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by butterwm
For parents, is it both mine and my wife's parents or just parents from my side of the family?
Does anyone know how much of a discount we can get if we BUY an actual ticket?
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Old 01-18-2016, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TCPHOENIX
Does anyone know how much of a discount we can get if we BUY an actual ticket?

20% off full fares which are refundable and SkyMiles eligible or 25% (or is it 30?) off for non-refundable tickets.


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Old 01-18-2016, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TNDeltaFlyboy
The more recs someone gets, IMO, there should be more opportunities to get scored.
FWIW, I agree.
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Old 01-18-2016, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Twister
I agree, they won't score an ap when the only thing that changed is an additional 50 yrs of flying time. The issue in question is what does Delta do when they get additional internal recs sent straight to the hiring guys (as opposed to recs on AirlineApps.com). In my opinion, the quote above about re-scoring an ap when they get an internal rec is correct. Part of that is based on the source of the quote and part of that is based on the idea that DAL values their pilots' inputs and if one of their own is willing to take the time to submit an internal rec on someone, if the rec sits on a shelf for (possibly) up to 12 months, they are in essence completely ignoring what their valued employee has to say. I just don't see Delta doing that.

However the process works, I'm just extremely grateful I was able to get the interview!
I can only imagine how much more work would be generated if they scored an app every time someone made a recommendation. Unless something drastic has changed we were told at the job fairs by AK himself that an app is only scored once a year. So if they have 10,000 applications on file and have only reviewed half of them they certainly don't have the time to just keep reviewing apps because a month later another rec comes in. Seems right to me that they don't have the resources to keep scoring apps especially when it's only a month later and most of the time nothing has changed.
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Old 01-18-2016, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by lavService
....... Your family all travels for free domestic and international plus any international taxes. Most ID 90 agreements take affect after 6 months of employment.
So is there a limit on the number of flights (annually, etc) a family member can receive on "Space Available" status?

Also, can anyone explain what "ID 90" is and what its advantages are? Obviously better than Space A, but what?
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Old 01-18-2016, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Twister
So is there a limit on the number of flights (annually, etc) a family member can receive on "Space Available" status?
No limit (at DL, at least). You pay $50 a year to be "in the system"; you and all of your eligible pass riders can then fly standby as much as desired. If you choose not to pay the $50 bucks, you're limited to the jumpseat only. (While plenty of people grumble about the $50, I know of no one who doesn't pay it.)

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Also, can anyone explain what "ID 90" is and what its advantages are? Obviously better than Space A, but what?
ID90 = "Interline Discount 90%"; there are some variations on the theme (ID75, etc.). Same concept as ZED ("Zonal Employee Discount") fares, different price structures. Used for standby travel on offline (i.e., other than your own company) metal. ZED seems to be the most common--there's a matrix for high/med/low pricing (based on the agreement between your own company and the the airline on which you travel) and distance traveled (3 tiers, I think?), with a pre-determined rate in each square. Generally a great deal for international (i.e., long distance), terrible for domestic (shorter distances), particularly if multiple legs are involved (each is priced independently)--buying an online fare will be cheaper. IDxx is simply a discounted percentage applied to a specified fare (eg, an ID90 fare for a $500 ticket is $50)--not the fare you find on Kayak, but the "published," "full" fare. Any of these are fully refundable if not used.

Disagree, personally, about ID90/ZED being "better" than online non-rev, it just covers different situations. Generally, it will always be cheaper (i.e., free!) and "better" (higher priority) if you can fly on your own metal. If you're going somewhere that your airline doesn't fly; or if you're looking to bounce around internationally; or if there's simply a much more convenient schedule on Airline X, then the ZED fares are "better"....

Keep in mind also that your badge generally gets you in the jumpseat of any domestic carrier anywhere they fly (you'll only get the cockpit jumpseat on your own company for international flights, but you can still board for an available cabin seat using your jumpseat privileges).

BTW, you'll peg yourself as a military hick if you keep calling it "Space A".... The cognoscenti call it "non-rev"....
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Old 01-18-2016, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Twister
So is there a limit on the number of flights (annually, etc) a family member can receive on "Space Available" status?

Also, can anyone explain what "ID 90" is and what its advantages are? Obviously better than Space A, but what?
No limit on space available travel for spouses and kids. I think parents have unlimited domestic travel but only a certain number of international travel days they can use.

ID90s allow you and your family to travel on airlines besides your own or airlines that may not have jumpseat agreements. Great for international travel if you want to get some place Delta just doesn't go (Tokyo to Sydney, for example), if the wife and/or kids want to get on another airline besides Delta, or as a backup for a route that Delta may fly but other airlines serve as well (gives you the option of flying KLM if AMS-JFK on Delta fills up). If you have the option to ride your own metal then ID90s are NOT better than space available (SA). Your priority is lower (often at or near the bottom), the fees can add up, they tend to be less flexible and you are almost always not eligible for an upgrade (though you can sometimes get lucky). Hope this helps clear things up.
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Old 01-18-2016, 07:18 PM
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Thx for your replies above! Good stuff to know. Wife is already excited to fly and see our daughter in ID.

Now all I have to do is keep swimming for about 2 more months and then make it through training....

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BTW, you'll peg yourself as a military hick if you keep calling it "Space A".... The cognoscenti call it "non-rev"....
Yeah, guilty as charged. Gonna take a long time, I think, for me to learn the new language. Thx, again!
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