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12-16-2015, 05:42 PM
#5821
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: 320B
Posts: 42
I'm tracking 36 off the street confirmed and possibly one off the street still to be filled plus the flows which are predicted at 6 for a total class size of at least 42-43. We should know more as the last emails go out and folks chime in...
12-16-2015, 07:00 PM
#5822
FO
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: 73N
Posts: 250
That's a good start for the year. 70+ for January is better than December's 20.
12-17-2015, 03:00 AM
#5823
ATL 717B
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: C-130J AC / B717 FO
Posts: 362
[QUOTE=Galaxydriver;2029102]Because a 5yr 737 FO will make the same as the 5yr 190 CA. And 5 yr 320, 88 or 717 FO not much less.
Agreed it doesn't make sense for 320 and higher. But what about the guys who have finished year one seat lock in a 717 or 88? That would be a significant pay raise to go to the left seat of a 190.
Agreed it doesn't make sense for 320 and higher. But what about the guys who have finished year one seat lock in a 717 or 88? That would be a significant pay raise to go to the left seat of a 190.
12-17-2015, 04:08 AM
#5824
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,242
[QUOTE=Kjazz130;2029247]
I believe a seat lock is broken on your first CA award. I also don't think the company wants new hires/first year guys/gals in the left seat regardless of their experience. I am sure they will come to ALPA to re-negotiate the 190 pay rates but will want something in return in TA2.
Because a 5yr 737 FO will make the same as the 5yr 190 CA. And 5 yr 320, 88 or 717 FO not much less.
Agreed it doesn't make sense for 320 and higher. But what about the guys who have finished year one seat lock in a 717 or 88? That would be a significant pay raise to go to the left seat of a 190.
Agreed it doesn't make sense for 320 and higher. But what about the guys who have finished year one seat lock in a 717 or 88? That would be a significant pay raise to go to the left seat of a 190.
12-17-2015, 12:22 PM
#5826
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: DL
Posts: 136
[QUOTE=maddogmax;2029261]
I believe a seat lock is broken on your first CA award. I also don't think the company wants new hires/first year guys/gals in the left seat regardless of their experience. I am sure they will come to ALPA to re-negotiate the 190 pay rates but will want something in return in TA2.
You are not prevented from becoming a captain because of a seat lock but they are added together to form your new seat lock. If you were on a two year freeze and then immediately upgraded you'd now have a 4 year freeze for example (I know that is an unlikely scenario)...
Also, if they open a new category (defined as being 60 days or less old) the same deal applies. You can go to any new category even if you have a freeze but you will incur an additional freeze to be added to your current freeze. I've met quite a few pilots that say "there is no freeze for a new category" and that is sort of true. A freeze will not prevent you from going to a new category, but it will add a freeze to your current one and you will incur a two year freeze if you currently don't have one.
Just FYI for anyone who cares, the only way to not get a freeze is if you are MD'd. A VD will also give you a freeze but you'll at least the the paid move that an MD would have given you.
I believe a seat lock is broken on your first CA award. I also don't think the company wants new hires/first year guys/gals in the left seat regardless of their experience. I am sure they will come to ALPA to re-negotiate the 190 pay rates but will want something in return in TA2.
Also, if they open a new category (defined as being 60 days or less old) the same deal applies. You can go to any new category even if you have a freeze but you will incur an additional freeze to be added to your current freeze. I've met quite a few pilots that say "there is no freeze for a new category" and that is sort of true. A freeze will not prevent you from going to a new category, but it will add a freeze to your current one and you will incur a two year freeze if you currently don't have one.
Just FYI for anyone who cares, the only way to not get a freeze is if you are MD'd. A VD will also give you a freeze but you'll at least the the paid move that an MD would have given you.
12-17-2015, 12:37 PM
#5827
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: 320B
Posts: 42
12-17-2015, 02:56 PM
#5829
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,538
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