violinvelocity

There wouldn't be a point where they just say "ok the people we interviewed/hired are too long in the pool, lets flush it and hire new/fresh from the latest interviews," would they?

sailingfun

No, The fleet plan also changes quickly. The hiring should be front loaded next year which will help.

surfnski

Yes. Yes they would. Ask the dozen or so guys hired in the last group in 2010 who had to redo the entire interview at the back of the line in 2013.

capncrunch

I just wanted to give this a bump to make sure the poolies see it.

Beware of Sailingfuns BS, he shovels it deep.

Big E 757

The only reason they would do that is if they completely stopped hiring due to some bad news World event and didn't hire for a couple of years. Hang in there and keep your chin up. I know it sucks waiting. Hopefully you have a decent job to hold you over until the magic phone call comes in.

Indy

Actually...this is MY thread, but Bonepilot can be my thread cop. He's alright, despite what his wife (the better pilot in the family) says about him.

In all fairness to Sailing, the 50-60/mo number is a quote from Network Planning. Those on property can hear the reference on the re-run of the Seattle base visit on DeltaNet. The good news is the company is actively hunting for airplanes, so hopefully fleet buys bring more hiring.

firstmob

What type of aircraft are they looking for,wide or narrow body?

sailingfun

Your predictions on contract 2012 verses mine?
Everything I have posted is right out of Delta net including the hiring numbers. I guess you guys know better then the people who will do the hiring.

forgot to bid

Predictions on 2012? Hiring?


Sailingfun 7-23-2012:

We were going to hire for the 717 unless Europe, where the "all growth" 717 wasn't going to fly, doesn't get stable. Something like this boat will never sink unless water is wet, then there's a chance.

Capncrunch 10-25-2012:
Looks like Capn was not thinking we'd hire in 2012.


Did we hire in 2012-2013?

forgot to bid

Awesome Poolies,

Anyone that has been here for a while, and it doesn't take long, knows that crew resources puts out memos that are... interesting. My favorite, when the 717 came they said the 88's staffing was going to be reduced, no backfilling, life on the 88 would get worse then it currently was... oh and btw, the 88 to 717 transition course is a cras... is only 5 days vs 4 weeks or something. AE drops, lots of 88 FOs go to the 717 just as they hoped and subsequently they added to the 88. Now wait a minute... I think you people tricked us to save money an... hey, this thing has air conditioning. I like it. I'm straight. No complaining. Nope.

Really they're not bad faith guesstimates, per se, it's just as someone said the 5 year plan changes every 3 weeks. Their estimation of things, such as staffing, might be as accurate as saying "go east if you want to go from Los Angeles to Atlanta." True, but. It's not exactly what you were looking for but it's not wrong. You'll see it a lot in bids where they say they're adding 10 pilots to a category and add 40. I mean they had no staffing on the ER this summer, but hey, we're reducing that fleet so they didn't even add in the second to last AE. It's a wag. And things change on them all the time. So even if they're being honest on hiring numbers, who knows until it's over.

And truth is, they need to hire a lot of people. They can try to mitigate with changing work rules and stuff, but they still need a lot of people. So even if we don't buy off on contracts promising 739s, E190s (20 now becomes a firm 70 according to some here) and magical unicorns that have rainbows coming out their posteriors (also known as the 777), we need you people.

So hopefully they put all of you folks' butts in jets here as soon as possible. And if you go to the 717, it's awesome, but that butt will hurt. Buy a pad to sit on.