mnspeak

This is correct information.

Bfrodowood

One of the guys in the 22 Apr group passed this info along.


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Bfrodowood

I'm pretty sure there are 3 left at this point from 22 Apr awaiting indoc.


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Redbird611

3 or 4 OTS for the entire month... Ouch.

Jughead135

Rosey has it correct--PWA §22. All vacancies are offered to those on the SL before new hires. You're both sort of saying the same thing: existing pilots get first crack at it, but you can't move bases (and/or equipment) until the vacancy is offered. That's via AE--usually (the PWA seems to have some wiggle room on unanticipated openings--but even if this is done through some means other than AE*, existing pilots have a bid before new hires). In the case of changing bases (per the OP's question), there's no lock to worry about, so, NO, so long as you have a bid in the system, a new hire can't get a position in front of you. You DO have your bid in, right??


*I don't know what this would be, just gleaning some of the language from §22....

Tummy

Are you sure about that? I put a bid in for ATL 7ER B as soon as they showed us how in indoc, and they awarded ATL 7ER B to guys on their indoc drop right after me.

tunes

I'm assuming because it was an indoc drop and not an actual AE


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FergVFC13

Wow. If the folks posting all the comments about montellv's "financial irresponsibility" are prior service, you've forgotten your past.

I know him personally. He's worked for me in the military, and he is a personal friend. A great American, who has served honorably and sacrificed much, as has his family. He is not irresponsible, but I think your condemnation of his finances are.

If those posters are folks who have never worn the nation's cloth (that would be my guess), well, "I'd rather you'd just said thank you, and went on your way."

If I know him, he was working his ass off to the last day in uniform, and deferred his personal situation out of a priority to duty.

Maybe you should appreciate his and his family's service and sacrifice on your behalf rather than boldly post "maybe if you can't afford it you should have just stayed in." Wow.

Any airline will be lucky to have that guy.

- Brian Ferguson

4fans

Welcome to apc. Now back to the poolie thread!

captkdobbs

Something that happened this year is the company put out several AEs early in the calendar year that resulted in several hundred 'Unfilled Vacancies' that went into a sort of 'bank' (for lack of a better analogy). In other words, the staffing-needs lists resulted in more openings than current line pilots could fill. The 'unfilled vacancies' show up on the award with NHP or New hire under the name column.

The AE process provides training and crew resources some flexibility in 'converting' line pilots (moving them into their new positions)(some needed training, some were just moving bases) and filling excess training slots with new-hire pilots.

There's only one way to move domiciles after the 'class drop' process and that is by AE.

In Tummy's case, the 'bank' may have had several unfilled ATL 7ER B positions during/after his class drop but, at his class time, training didn't have enough slots. By the next class (1-2 weeks) there opened up a couple more slots and that class had ATL 7ER B slots on their drop. It may not seem fair watching people in subsequent classes get the position that you desire, but that is how the AE awards/class drops work.