DAL Poolie Info
08-03-2015, 10:22 AM
#4691
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Latest update. Need info on interview groups in July.
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might be reading it wrong, but should it be updated for street numbers to start at 0 after the 8/17 class?
08-03-2015, 02:06 PM
#4694
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Joined APC: May 2015
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"...For any poolies interested, it was a 2 month break from sim completion before the start of IOE. Obs dropped maybe 5 weeks into the break."
I'm guessing you are talking on the ER. 73n and 88s going within a couple days of completion right now...
"...For any poolies interested, it was a 2 month break from sim completion before the start of IOE. Obs dropped maybe 5 weeks into the break."
I'm guessing you are talking on the ER. 73n and 88s going within a couple days of completion right now...
08-03-2015, 06:15 PM
#4697
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08-03-2015, 06:45 PM
#4698
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Position: A330 FO
Posts: 728
I found some info back in the latest and greatest thread, but i dont think it was very clear. and I'm not really sure where to post this.......
My question is:
once complete with IOE:
1. Do we fly the rest of our shadow bid for that month?
2. Do we get training pay for the rest of that month?
3. If TOE is scheduled right after (like 3 days), do we get paid our standard hourly rate for TOE? or is that training pay?
any help would be appreciated.
For any poolies interested, it was a 2 month break from sim completion before the start of IOE. Obs dropped maybe 5 weeks into the break.
thanks dudes!
My question is:
once complete with IOE:
1. Do we fly the rest of our shadow bid for that month?
2. Do we get training pay for the rest of that month?
3. If TOE is scheduled right after (like 3 days), do we get paid our standard hourly rate for TOE? or is that training pay?
any help would be appreciated.
For any poolies interested, it was a 2 month break from sim completion before the start of IOE. Obs dropped maybe 5 weeks into the break.
thanks dudes!
1. Yes
2. No, go to flight pay as soon as signed off (which usually leads to a gap, be ready)
3. Once off IOE pretty sure you're off training pay, check out PWA it lists requirements for when you get off training pay (I'm not on a fleet that does TOE so can't answer for sure)
2. No, go to flight pay as soon as signed off (which usually leads to a gap, be ready)
3. Once off IOE pretty sure you're off training pay, check out PWA it lists requirements for when you get off training pay (I'm not on a fleet that does TOE so can't answer for sure)
TOE (Trans-Oceanic Experience) is paid at flight pay with international addition and international perdiem.
In #2 Sputnik mentioned a 'gap'.
The reason is that training pay is paid at the end of the half-month you just completed. (Jul 1-15 is paid on July 15th)
Flight pay is paid 'in arears'. (Jul 1-15 is actually paid on July 31 and July 16-31 plus all perdiems, extras, adjustments are paid on Aug 15)(Confusing, I know.)
The result is that, if you, for example, convert on the 3rd of the month, your 15th paycheck will be 3/30ths of training pay.
You won't get your first flight pay paycheck until the end of the month.
Your first flight paycheck will also seem small since it only covers the 4th-15th (in this example)
Don't shoot the messenger, just have a little buffer in your account for the first months of employment at DL. It is worth it.
08-03-2015, 09:02 PM
#4699
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: systems analyst
Posts: 757
IOE is paid on 'training pay plus perdiem'. Once you get signed off for domestic IOE (35 hours) you convert to 'flight pay' (first year).
TOE (Trans-Oceanic Experience) is paid at flight pay with international addition and international perdiem.
In #2 Sputnik mentioned a 'gap'.
The reason is that training pay is paid at the end of the half-month you just completed. (Jul 1-15 is paid on July 15th)
Flight pay is paid 'in arears'. (Jul 1-15 is actually paid on July 31 and July 16-31 plus all perdiems, extras, adjustments are paid on Aug 15)(Confusing, I know.)
The result is that, if you, for example, convert on the 3rd of the month, your 15th paycheck will be 3/30ths of training pay.
You won't get your first flight pay paycheck until the end of the month.
Your first flight paycheck will also seem small since it only covers the 4th-15th (in this example)
Don't shoot the messenger, just have a little buffer in your account for the first months of employment at DL. It is worth it.
TOE (Trans-Oceanic Experience) is paid at flight pay with international addition and international perdiem.
In #2 Sputnik mentioned a 'gap'.
The reason is that training pay is paid at the end of the half-month you just completed. (Jul 1-15 is paid on July 15th)
Flight pay is paid 'in arears'. (Jul 1-15 is actually paid on July 31 and July 16-31 plus all perdiems, extras, adjustments are paid on Aug 15)(Confusing, I know.)
The result is that, if you, for example, convert on the 3rd of the month, your 15th paycheck will be 3/30ths of training pay.
You won't get your first flight pay paycheck until the end of the month.
Your first flight paycheck will also seem small since it only covers the 4th-15th (in this example)
Don't shoot the messenger, just have a little buffer in your account for the first months of employment at DL. It is worth it.
08-03-2015, 09:36 PM
#4700
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
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Posts: 1,707
I found some info back in the latest and greatest thread, but i dont think it was very clear. and I'm not really sure where to post this.......
My question is:
once complete with IOE:
1. Do we fly the rest of our shadow bid for that month?
2. Do we get training pay for the rest of that month?
3. If TOE is scheduled right after (like 3 days), do we get paid our standard hourly rate for TOE? or is that training pay?
any help would be appreciated.
For any poolies interested, it was a 2 month break from sim completion before the start of IOE. Obs dropped maybe 5 weeks into the break.
thanks dudes!
My question is:
once complete with IOE:
1. Do we fly the rest of our shadow bid for that month?
2. Do we get training pay for the rest of that month?
3. If TOE is scheduled right after (like 3 days), do we get paid our standard hourly rate for TOE? or is that training pay?
any help would be appreciated.
For any poolies interested, it was a 2 month break from sim completion before the start of IOE. Obs dropped maybe 5 weeks into the break.
thanks dudes!
1. Yes
2. No, go to flight pay as soon as signed off (which usually leads to a gap, be ready)
3. Once off IOE pretty sure you're off training pay, check out PWA it lists requirements for when you get off training pay (I'm not on a fleet that does TOE so can't answer for sure)
2. No, go to flight pay as soon as signed off (which usually leads to a gap, be ready)
3. Once off IOE pretty sure you're off training pay, check out PWA it lists requirements for when you get off training pay (I'm not on a fleet that does TOE so can't answer for sure)
So I don't think you fly out the rest of the shadow bid, but you do fly out the rest of the month's bid after shadow. At least that was my experience (as I recall).
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