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Old 07-09-2015, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mrober37
I don't think they will give me the retirement without extending me, I have pursued it pretty hard. The bosses say that they will write any letter that I request, as the policy changed recently.

As far as the eligibility in the interview, I did not try to mislead them in anyway. I put the date that I thought I would be available, and had no reason to think any different. Several other guys in the command have done the same thing with no issues.
Stay in until you can retire. Delta will understand.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:51 PM
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I heard from someone who deferred that you can only defer 2 classes.
Of course, this is all hear-say until confirmed with the powers on campus.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dodo
I heard from someone who deferred that you can only defer 2 classes.
Of course, this is all hear-say until confirmed with the powers on campus.
Get the rule about deferrals straight from AK and / or his people; don't rely on what you read here.

Having said that, a year ago (ish), Delta's rule was unlimited deferrals for Military reasons. Caveat being you're giving up seniority.
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Old 07-09-2015, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead135
Thanks for the info (i.e., feeding my curiosity!)....



Any stories to go with this? What is that "certain point," what did they fail for, etc? Can't be too serious, or [one would assume] Compass wouldn't want them back, no??
Most of them got to IOE, where they were unable to be signed off by a Check Airman. Couple have washed out in the sim. All were given an opportunity to requalify for their Captain jobs at Compass. All of them did, with one exception. They also get come back at their former pay rate and with their original date of hire/seniority.
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Old 07-09-2015, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mrober37
I don't think they will give me the retirement without extending me, I have pursued it pretty hard. The bosses say that they will write any letter that I request, as the policy changed recently.

As far as the eligibility in the interview, I did not try to mislead them in anyway. I put the date that I thought I would be available, and had no reason to think any different. Several other guys in the command have done the same thing with no issues.
If it were me, and I didn't hate what I was doing, I'd probably stay till retirement. Based on all available info, they're going to hire indefinitely (unless the TA goes down, in which case they'll be forced to kill puppies and the occasional new hire). However, I would recommend checking your options with guard/reserve if you'd be willing to do that for a pension so you can make a fully informed decision.

Barring another 9/11 I think we'll keep hiring steadily (and if there were a disaster like that, they'd be furloughing anyway). That said, last winter they were running ~145 through class a month. That adds up to a lot of seniority in six months.

That's a really tough call, I wish you the best of luck with it. End of the day, a CJO is a pretty good thing. Difficult decision but the main thing is that big picture I think you'll be fine whichever way you go.
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Old 07-09-2015, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
Get the rule about deferrals straight from AK and / or his people; don't rely on what you read here.

Having said that, a year ago (ish), Delta's rule was unlimited deferrals for Military reasons. Caveat being you're giving up seniority.
As long as you have orders you can defer. PFA deferrals are limited to one. Life events (baby, death, and possibly immediate family weddings they will work with you. If USAF changed their mind (shocking, I know) just explain the situation when they call to offer you a class. AF is a very reasonably guy.
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Old 07-09-2015, 04:59 PM
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Well I'm in that class and that's what's happening. 100% guarantee that. I'm sure any conflict with the spreadsheet is because of the confusing nature of the flow and when a class has only flow guys vs. one mixed with street guys.
So, To be clear.... There are no calls going out for Aug. 3? And the 4/16 and 4/21 cjo guys are being called for Aug. 17 IOE? Do we presume that means that Aug. 3 will be all Compass again? Has anyone past 4/21 cjo been called for the Aug 17 class? Did anyone ask Andy how big the Aug 17 class would be?
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Old 07-09-2015, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Hrkdrivr
Get the rule about deferrals straight from AK and / or his people; don't rely on what you read here.

Having said that, a year ago (ish), Delta's rule was unlimited deferrals for Military reasons. Caveat being you're giving up seniority.
I had a military deferral for 3 months. Andy Frey just asked for a copy of my current orders to put in my file and to call him as soon as I was sure what my availability date was. He plugged me into the first class I was available for.
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Old 07-09-2015, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdUpHere
I had a military deferral for 3 months. Andy Frey just asked for a copy of my current orders to put in my file and to call him as soon as I was sure what my availability date was. He plugged me into the first class I was available for.
Same for me. You said it better.
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:30 AM
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Any 4/22 CJOs get called for 8/17?
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