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07-09-2015, 09:17 AM
#4431
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Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,090
Sputnik, thanks for responding. I am in a very unique situation. I am trying to take advantage of a drawdown program that will allow me to retire early, so I won't have the full 20. I do qualify for the program but they are asking (maybe requiring) me to stay longer to fill certain gaps IOT get the program approved. So, I can still drop a letter and get out with nothing, but I would prefer to take advantage of the retirement program.
07-09-2015, 09:17 AM
#4432
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,538
Sputnik, thanks for responding. I am in a very unique situation. I am trying to take advantage of a drawdown program that will allow me to retire early, so I won't have the full 20. I do qualify for the program but they are asking (maybe requiring) me to stay longer to fill certain gaps IOT get the program approved. So, I can still drop a letter and get out with nothing, but I would prefer to take advantage of the retirement program.
So if I understand correctly you are talking about going on terminal in aug if approved and oct/Nov if not?
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07-09-2015, 09:18 AM
#4433
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Hates Commuting
Posts: 973
Just my idle curiosity here, I have zero canines in the altercation...:
What defines the end of the flow? Was the "plug" flow guy hired on/before a certain date, and the next guy at Compass hired the next day or later?
Did/has the flow-eligible vs. non-flow-eligible distinction caused any friction at Compass?
Is/was there any way to "fail" the flow, or is/was it truly "effective on <date>, you're on the DL seniority list"...?
Did/has anyone bypassed the flow, choosing to stay at Compass (presumable for seniority reasons)? In any significant number?
Again, just curious--I was never at Compass, and the one guy I know at Compass was just hired a couple of months ago (thus not flow-eligible)....
What defines the end of the flow? Was the "plug" flow guy hired on/before a certain date, and the next guy at Compass hired the next day or later?
Did/has the flow-eligible vs. non-flow-eligible distinction caused any friction at Compass?
Is/was there any way to "fail" the flow, or is/was it truly "effective on <date>, you're on the DL seniority list"...?
Did/has anyone bypassed the flow, choosing to stay at Compass (presumable for seniority reasons)? In any significant number?
Again, just curious--I was never at Compass, and the one guy I know at Compass was just hired a couple of months ago (thus not flow-eligible)....
Last edited by Jughead135; 07-09-2015 at 09:20 AM. Reason: one more Q
07-09-2015, 09:24 AM
#4434
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 191
Just my idle curiosity here, I have zero canines in the altercation...:
What defines the end of the flow? Was the "plug" flow guy hired on/before a certain date, and the next guy at Compass hired the next day or later?
Did/has the flow-eligible vs. non-flow-eligible distinction caused any friction at Compass?
Is/was there any way to "fail" the flow, or is/was it truly "effective on <date>, you're on the DL seniority list"...?
Again, just curious--I was never at Compass, and the one guy I know at Compass was just hired a couple of months ago (thus not flow-eligible)....
What defines the end of the flow? Was the "plug" flow guy hired on/before a certain date, and the next guy at Compass hired the next day or later?
Did/has the flow-eligible vs. non-flow-eligible distinction caused any friction at Compass?
Is/was there any way to "fail" the flow, or is/was it truly "effective on <date>, you're on the DL seniority list"...?
Again, just curious--I was never at Compass, and the one guy I know at Compass was just hired a couple of months ago (thus not flow-eligible)....
No friction that I have seen but some guys have been vocal about some things while forgetting their audience in the crew room. For instance I overhead a guy say " I am torn about going because my QOL is so great here as a check airman and Ill be taking a pay cut" Boowho, you're going to DELTA! Everyone would kill to be in their position.
The flow guys can fail up to a certain point at Delta and return to Compass. A couple have.
We have a group of age 60+ former ATA Captains and a couple other random people who have chosen to stay.
Last edited by AluminumFoil; 07-09-2015 at 09:35 AM.
07-09-2015, 09:32 AM
#4435
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 5
07-09-2015, 09:35 AM
#4436
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,538
You can bring it up to them and see what they say but that's a drastic difference...have you thought of palace chasing and finishing out til retirement in the guard/reserve?
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07-09-2015, 09:56 AM
#4437
New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 5
Yes I have thought about the reserves. I can drop my papers then do the reserves. I think the retirement would be the better option, but Delta would have to be okay with it. I am not sure how the military deferral works. I think I will ultimately have to call over there to find out, but I wanted to see what you guys thought.
07-09-2015, 09:56 AM
#4438
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Petting Zoo
Posts: 2,108
Sputnik, thanks for responding. I am in a very unique situation. I am trying to take advantage of a drawdown program that will allow me to retire early, so I won't have the full 20. I do qualify for the program but they are asking (maybe requiring) me to stay longer to fill certain gaps IOT get the program approved. So, I can still drop a letter and get out with nothing, but I would prefer to take advantage of the retirement program.
Separate issue, how exactly did you present availability at your interview and on application?
07-09-2015, 10:02 AM
#4439
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Hates Commuting
Posts: 973
Thanks for the info (i.e., feeding my curiosity!)....
Any stories to go with this? What is that "certain point," what did they fail for, etc? Can't be too serious, or [one would assume] Compass wouldn't want them back, no??
Any stories to go with this? What is that "certain point," what did they fail for, etc? Can't be too serious, or [one would assume] Compass wouldn't want them back, no??
07-09-2015, 10:37 AM
#4440
New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 5
Man, tough call. How many years do you have? Guard reserve an option if you cant get this? I have the pension, and am pretty fond of it. It has made first year pay much easier. Not sure I'd want to give up maybe 500 seniority numbers. Have you pushed for an answer whether theyll give you the retirement without extending you? Whats your boss say? Significant other?
Separate issue, how exactly did you present availability at your interview and on application?
Separate issue, how exactly did you present availability at your interview and on application?
As far as the eligibility in the interview, I did not try to mislead them in anyway. I put the date that I thought I would be available, and had no reason to think any different. Several other guys in the command have done the same thing with no issues.
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